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RogerTheShrubber
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APD changed their policy after killing this driver

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It was the second unarmed motorist they killed within a year.



MagicCityBlazer
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APD changed their policy after killing this driver


That whole joke of "someone has to die before we change the rules" isn't really a joke with the government.

I am at the point that I don't think Police should carry guns out of the station unless responding to a violent crime.


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Fundamentally I don't think revving a car engine should mean that its okay to kill someone.


Because fundamentally that is what happened? He revved his engine and he got shot?



imjustafatkid
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He revved his engine and he got shot?


Looks that way. They had him surrounded, he revved his engine, they shot him.


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Looks that way. They had him surrounded, he revved his engine, they shot him.


Again, cops shouldn't have guns on the beat.

Its too dangerous otherwise.

Cop violence is way more important than terrorism.

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RogerTheShrubber
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That whole joke of "someone has to die before we change the rules" isn't really a joke with the government.



Happened twice. The second time the PD decided the bad PR wasn't worth it. So far, no cops have been harmed since they changed the policy, and no unarmed citizens killed.


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CarrolltonTiger
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it's definitely not as egregious as the headline and story in OP makes it sound, but its still a sad situation.


How many times should you allow a frick up to ram or try to ram you before you can use deadly force? The police were out of their vehicles at the time of the shooting and he was still trying to ram them with their guns drawn.

frick him, he may have wanted to get shot after his girlfriend dumped his sorry ass.

I bet there was more to the story of the interaction between him and his dad than just being mad about going to go get smokes. You wold have to be the worlds stupidest father to call the cops on a dumb shite kid that just got out of jail and was depressed and report him as a car thief. Do you think you can just say later you were joking.






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How many times should you allow a frick up to ram or try to ram you before you can use deadly force? The police were out of their vehicles at the time of the shooting and he was still trying to ram them with their guns drawn.


I believe revving an engine does not equal trying to ram officers out of their cars.

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frick him, he may have wanted to get shot after his girlfriend dumped his sorry ass.


His sorry ass? Not quite enough vitriol there.

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I bet there was more to the story of the interaction between him and his dad than just being mad about going to go get smokes

Maybe...
The dad may have also expected his son not be killed in the exchange too.


CarrolltonTiger
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I believe revving an engine does not equal trying to ram officers out of their cars.


Did you watch the video? He repeatedly rammed his vehicle into cop cars and was trying to hit cops that had exited their vehicles and were on the lawn when the shots were fired. He wasn't just parked revving his engine.




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Stingray
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"For deadly force to be constitutional when an arrest is taking place, it must be the reasonable choice under all the circumstances at the time. Therefore, deadly force should be looked at as an option that is used when it is believed that no other action will succeed. The Model Penal Code, although not adopted in all states, restricts police action regarding deadly force. According to the code, officers should not use deadly force unless the action will not endanger innocent bystanders, the suspect used deadly force in committing the crime, or the officers believe a delay in arrest may result in injury or death to other people."

who cares about the kids father?

I care about dumbass cops killing people.


CarrolltonTiger
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I care about dumbass cops killing people.



Cops shooting at car thieves who flee a traffic stop at high speed, engage in a high speed escape, use the vehicle as a deadly weapon to ram police cars and then try to hit dismounted police aren't violating the Constitution.


MagicCityBlazer
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CarrolltonTiger


Does a cop having a gun on the beat make you feel safer? Because it probably got this kid killed.


John McClane
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All over cigarettes... Dad was a dumbass


With that said, what the frick were these cops thinking? Should be in jail


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CarrolltonTiger
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Does a cop having a gun on the beat make you feel safer?


I have no issues with or fear of the US police and am not bothered if they are armed.

But I certainly wouldn't have unarmed police working in the United States far too many illegal guns in the hands of perps.

I would however, like to have higher standards for police, I wouldn't waive education, criminal backgrounds, psychological profiles, etc, for diversity,



Stingray
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flee a traffic stop at high speed


does not need deadly force

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engage in a high speed escape


ditto

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use the vehicle as a deadly weapon to ram police cars and then try to hit dismounted police


This is where things get dicey. But again, the cop walked out of the way of the perps truck which was in reverse going about 10 miles per hour, then opened fire.

Deadly force only when a life is in danger should be the standard.


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MagicCityBlazer
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I [...] am not bothered if they are armed.


The cops aren't the military.

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But I certainly wouldn't have unarmed police working in the United States


Cops were once officers of the peace, what are they now? Every day cops get closer to the army.

And why? it sure doesn't make us safer.


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flucobaseball
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Don't see how that could be used as a rationalization for murdering the kid.



He had already made students dodge the truck(which would possibly have killed them). He rammed a police car, again showing no respect for human life. I find it odd that you post the part only of him ramming the cop and then coming to a stop and fail to post that he made others dodge him as well. He was a threat to the lives of people there and apparently didn't have any intention of stopping. The officers had to act in a way to end the situation to keep the guy from continuing to drive recklessly on campus. What is your alternative? Backing away and allowing him to drive off when he has already shown no respect for human life and there are people around?
Now let me clarify. I am not in any way saying that I agree with what the officer did. I'm saying that I do not have the facts and I am presenting you with a very possible scenario in which firing on the teen could have been warranted.

ETA - I may have read it in the story, but I wonder if the father told police that it was his son that stole the car. I assume the father won't be charged at this point because of his loss, but it goes to show that it doesn't pay off to file false police reports. This story is very unfortunate.
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lsucoonass
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while i believe the kid was wrong running from the cops and such what the cops did was wrong and hopefully they will go to jail.



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lsucoonass
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re: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead
btw why would a dad get that upset over his 19 year old son smoking cigarettes?


CarrolltonTiger
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btw why would a dad get that upset over his 19 year old son smoking cigarettes?



Because the dad knew he is the type of a-hole that rams cops and tries to kill them and shouldn't be out in public with a vehicle while he was getting his dysfunctional life back on track?

Didn't show much respect for his dad's property or human life.


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