Current idea that cold is from global warming fundamentally flawed?

So the earth heals itself, right?? What arrogant fools we would be to mess with the Earth's natural cycles

I am not disputing or supporting the idea that global warming could make areas colder.

What I want to know is if those stating that this cold IS ,in fact, from warming, what warming are they basing this on? What I am reading states that the area in question is cooling, or more specifically increasing in freezing.

What measure are they using to support that this is from warming that I do not see?

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There's a reason it's called normal climate fluctuations.

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While we were experiencing the polar vortex, Australia was experiencing a record heat wave.

There's a reason it's called global climate change.

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there is no reasoning with the extreme low information person like yourself

If "global warming" or "climate change" were man made, what realistically could be done to stop it at this point? And if it could be stopped, what are taxes going to do to stop it? We obviously don't need to research it anymore because I've been told numerous times that it is a scientifically proven fact already.

The simple fact is is that the left doesn't give two shits about stopping "climate change." If they did they would just make a law shutting down all harmful pollutants in the country. And then force developing countries to stop polluting as well. Of course they would just tell us to frick off because not everyone is stupid enough to just shut down their economy to save the planet.

But it's the planet we're talking about!!!! Are we going to use military force to stop people from driving cars and shut down all the power plants. It would definitely be worth the blood and treasure. We only have one Earth after all. Nothing should be off the table.

The idea that humans have enough power to destroy the earth is laughable.

We aren't much more than giant ants, not gods.

Get over yourselves.

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what are taxes going to do to stop it

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especially considering China, Russia and other countries with huge populations, significant landmass, and no reason to listen to the US or our allies are polluting exponentially more than we are. (sorry, i replied before finishing your whole post, where you touch on this.)

The theory of warming triggering major cooling has to do with two interrelated parts of the earth's climatic system: salinity and heat flow in the atlantic ocean.

The theory revolves around what is known as the north atlantic conveyer system (of which the gulf stream is a part) which consists of ocean currents that take warm air from the tropics north towards Iceland which then sinks as it cools and flows back south. This helps to keep temperatures more mild in the northern Europe and Canada than they would be otherwise. What allows this to happen is that salinity varies both in temperature and depth and has a huge effect on buoyancy (for example, you are far more buoyant in the Dead Sea than in a fresh water lake). This allows the cold water to sink beneath the warm and flow south.

The theory as related to global warming states that as temperatures across the world increase, more arctic ice will melt, adding more freshwater to the north Atlantic Ocean. This change in salinity will reach a tipping point where the cold water will no longer be able to sink beneath the warm water mass and flow south, causing the conveyor to grind to a halt.

Without this flow of energy, Europe and North America get colder and wetter while the tropics get hotter and dryer. This has been observed at times throughout the ice ages.

The fear is that man is contributing to warming, therefor accelerating the process. Personally, i think man-driven agw is hogwash thanks to my knowledge of climate and modeling techniques.

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The idea that humans have enough power to destroy the earth is laughable.

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Wow. I'm glad this attitude is rare outside of the poli board.