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re: Confederate statues should NOT have been up in the 1st place
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:45 am to ChewyDante
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:45 am to ChewyDante
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So Lincoln should have handled reconciliation differently so that 150 years later we wouldn't have a statue controversy? In spite of the fact that it successfully created a unified nation, rather seamlessly? I'm going to let you reconsider how reasonable a complaint you think that
As another poster said, you kick your enemies arse, than the WINNER OF THE CONFLICT sets the terms of the peace, remind others of what will happen to them if they do again, then you move on.
Lee and the entire apparatus of the CSA should have been made examples of either hung or shot as examples to put down any clinging to the " heritage" that so many of you apparently cling to.
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:45 am to Covingtontiger77
Again, for those of us who understand the left, it isn't the statues today we are worried about.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:46 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:That may be true, but the South moved on. It's time for you whiny liberals to do the same.
-they were often erected during a time when State legislatures (especially in the South) were as racist as could be and still angry about the outcome of the war;
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:46 am to Wolfhound45
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:47 am to airfernando
Haha yeah baw I'm a liberal.
MAGA you beesh
MAGA you beesh
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:47 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:Do you even Treaty of Versailles bro?
As another poster said, you kick your enemies arse, than the WINNER OF THE CONFLICT sets the terms of the peace, remind others of what will happen to them if they do again, then you move on.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:48 am to Covingtontiger77
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clinging to the " heritage" that so many of you apparently cling to.
Yep, my stars and bars tee shirt is getting worn out. I need to get a new one.
BHP, can you spare one 'til I get to the store?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:53 am to Wolfhound45
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Do you even Treaty of Versailles bro?
Heavy on the mandates and restrictions.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:55 am to Covingtontiger77
You may be right, but they ARE up and so far, the zeal to eradicate them seems to me to have been more for ill than good.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:57 am to Covingtontiger77
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But I'm open minded enough to see how they could be seen as offensive to a lot of people.
So when did they become offensive? Because the outrage is fairly recent.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:57 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Boot on the neck does not work. Common sense and respect do. This is not about statues.
Heavy on the mandates and restrictions.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:59 am to Covingtontiger77
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As another poster said, you kick your enemies arse, than the WINNER OF THE CONFLICT sets the terms of the peace
So, right, exactly what happened.
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Lee and the entire apparatus of the CSA should have been made examples of either hung or shot as examples to put down any clinging to the " heritage" that so many of you apparently cling to.
I don't know why you even bothered quoting my post if you were going to absolutely ignore addressing the main idea.
You seem to imply that Lincoln's policies didn't effectively achieve peaceful and stable reconciliation of North and South, which of course was of Paramount concern. Or that the monument controversy today is more problematic than reunifying a country coming out of a horrendously bloody Civil War. Now you're really starting to sound like a fricking moron.
The winning powers were harsh on Germany after WWI. How'd that work out?
The U.S. was highly conciliatory and lenient on Germany and Japan after WWII. How'd that work out?
America unified and became the overwhelming leader of the Free world with no more revolution attempts or serious scares and you think Lincoln fricked up because some people in 2017 are upset about monuments to Confederates...oh, and those same people are also upset about monuments to Thomas Jefferson and George Washington. Yeah, Lincoln really fricked up...
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:00 am to Covingtontiger77
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- Lincoln really is to blame for this post civil war with his stance of letting the leaders and generals of the CSA off the hook in an attempt at "healing" the wounds of a nation- should have tried them for treason then there would have been no glorification of these people.
lol no.
Andrew Johnson and congress.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:00 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:
Lee and the entire apparatus of the CSA should have been made examples of either hung or shot as examples to put down any clinging to the " heritage" that so many of you apparently cling to.
So by your reasoning, the following countries should still be our mortal enemies:
Spain
Germany
Japan
Italy
England
Philippines
Mexico
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:05 am to Wolfhound45
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Boot on the neck does not work.
It doesn't need to be a boot on the neck.
quote:
Common sense and respect do.
I don't agree with that. If common sense and respect were effective, we wouldn't have needed the war.
I also don't think comparing the CSA to Europe is useful.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:05 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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So by your reasoning, the following countries should still be our mortal enemies: Spain Germany Japan Italy England Philippines Mexico
Nope. But should have been handled like the Nuremberg trials post WWII. If memory serves the world tried, imprisoned, and or executed a lot of the Nazi German officers and leaders.
I believe we also set terms with Japan regarding their ability to have future offensive weapons and military capabilities.
So yeah those two seemed to work out well.
Should have been done the same way with the CSA in hindsight.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:07 am to DisplacedBuckeye
We were not practicing common sense and respect leading into the war.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:08 am to Covingtontiger77
Either way they would be coming after Jefferson, Jackson, Teddy Rosevelt etc
Stay Woke and understand this isn't about Confederate statues this is about purging history.
Stay Woke and understand this isn't about Confederate statues this is about purging history.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:08 am to Covingtontiger77
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Lincoln really is to blame for this post civil war with his stance of letting the leaders and generals of the CSA off the hook in an attempt at "healing" the wounds of a nation- should have tried them for treason then there would have been no glorification of these people.
It wasn't Lincoln. He was dead. Andrew Johnson pardoned the CSA soldiers.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:08 am to Covingtontiger77
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Should have been done the same way with the CSA in hindsight.
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