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Comey didn't say there was no wiretap
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:36 pm
According to the NYT article Comey wanted the DOJ to issue a statement saying Obama didnt order the tap. Why not say there was no tap period if that was the case?
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:36 pm to guy4lsu
Because Comey ordered it.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:38 pm to Iosh
Link?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:39 pm to Iosh
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Because Comey ordered it.
Either that or Lynch did. Obama's statement also lined up with this yesterday saying he didn't order a tap. The statement didn't say that there was no tap.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:40 pm to Iosh
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This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:41 pm to guy4lsu
Because Comey ordered it. Why? Because You need these tools when you are conducting a high level investigation into possible financial and political collusion and corruption.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:43 pm to JuiceTerry
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Because Comey ordered it. Why? Because You need these tools when you are conducting a high level investigation into possible financial and political collusion and corruption.
So its ok to wiretap a political opponent and a sitting US Senator's office? You have lost your damn mind.
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:45 pm to JuiceTerry
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You need these tools when you are conducting a high level investigation into possible financial and political collusion and corruption.
Then why isn't Comey offering up the evidence of said political collusion and corruption? That's the crux of all of this tit for tat crap going on. Just come out & say:
Trump-yes collusion or no collusion
Obama-no spying or yes spying
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:45 pm to tide06
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They are playing beltway games.
DC needs to burn. They (all letters) work up their base and get more in donations to fight the power. It doesn't matter whether they are D or R any longer. The shite is the same.
They profit from our anger so they make us angry. I'm tired of their shite.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:47 pm to Cali 4 LSU
Not only that if they were conducting an investigation why didn't the FBI interview Sessions or Trump? Did they tap Hillary's phones when the were running an investigation on her?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:51 pm to Ted2010
Comey needs to be fired
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:54 pm to guy4lsu
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Did they tap Hillary's phones when the were running an investigation on her?
Hillary's foundation actually took foreign money when she was in office, why no taps on her to make sure there wasn't collusion or pay-for-play? Good point!
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:57 pm to guy4lsu
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So its ok to wiretap a political opponent and a sitting US Senator's office? You have lost your damn mind.
This board really struggles at times with complexity doesn't it?
Trump tweeted that Obama ordered and had placed a wire tap on his phone in Trump Tower. Then inferred it was for political reasons. A very serious assertion that would mean Obama and his administration broke numerous laws. As the IC is not allowed to tap phones for political purposes. The White House is not allowed to directly even order wiretaps at all.
the questions that need answering are:
- Did this tap exist?
- Did this tap exist as Trump asserted it? Meaning phone lines etc.
- If it existed, who ordered it and why?
Partisans like yourself are filling in the gaps with speculation to fit a narrative you want to be true, but only facts will make something true. For which we are lacking of them when it comes to what Trump has specifically asserted.
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:57 pm to Iosh
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Because Comey ordered it.
Only the DOJ can approach the FISA court. The FBI can contact the DOJ and request, but the DOJ has write the request. And before that happens, the AG herself has to review it and be informed. The AG was Loretta Lynch.
And you think Obama didn't know? You don't think Loretta ever mentioned it over lunch? NAH!
Posted on 3/5/17 at 5:03 pm to AUstar
Yes, it's almost a guarantee Lynch ordered this an Obama was fully aware it was going down. This didn't happen in a vacuum, and if you don't think they aren't worried, go look at the Lynch thread/speech, that will tell you!
Posted on 3/5/17 at 5:07 pm to bonhoeffer45
I just want to see the original FISA order that was rejected and then amended and brought back to the court in October of 2016.
I also want to know why the Obama administration first tried to go through an Article III federal court and was turned down then circumvented by placing the case as a "foreign" case.
If that is all true than how narrow was their scope? Being it had to be very narrow for them to be turned down by a federal court, then turned down by the FISA court the first time, and finally amended to omit Trumps name off the surveillance warrant.
If they did anything other than what is in that warrant it won't be pretty.
I also want to know why the Obama administration first tried to go through an Article III federal court and was turned down then circumvented by placing the case as a "foreign" case.
If that is all true than how narrow was their scope? Being it had to be very narrow for them to be turned down by a federal court, then turned down by the FISA court the first time, and finally amended to omit Trumps name off the surveillance warrant.
If they did anything other than what is in that warrant it won't be pretty.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 5:10 pm to AUstar
quote:For the thousandth time, no. I doubt he had to hear it from Lynch because Comey would've briefed him directly. That doesn't change the fact that the impetus came from Comey, not from Obama. The original Heat Street article which serves as the basis for all of the NR/Levin/Breitbart fuming says as much.
And you think Obama didn't know?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 5:14 pm to bonhoeffer45
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Trump tweeted that Obama ordered and had placed a wire tap on his phone in Trump Tower
He didn't say phone and I can't remember how many times people accused Bush of stuff because someone in his administration did something.
If Obama's DOJ, NSA or FBI, etc... tapped Trump Tower then OBAMA tapped Trump Tower.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 5:15 pm to JuiceTerry
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Why? Because You need these tools when you are conducting a high level investigation into possible financial and political collusion and corruption.
I'm confused, we all know he was after Hillary so why tap Trump?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 5:15 pm to reo45
Agree, I want to look at the scope of both the FISA warrants, and the timeline. A lot of the media reports on the tapps were in March 2016, and they didn't go to FISA till June, and that was rejected.
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