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Colorado passes medical aid in dying,

Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:28 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:28 pm
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Colorado passed a medical aid in dying measure Tuesday that will allow adults suffering from terminal illness to take life-ending, doctor-prescribed sleeping medication.

The ballot initiative passed overwhelmingly, by a two-thirds, one-third split, according to unofficial returns. Supporters claimed victory an hour after polls closed in Colorado



Not sure how I feel about this. What are the boards thoughts for or against?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:31 pm to
CO is a blue state, right?

How can we help?
Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
12507 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:31 pm to
So for this it's not even funny
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50215 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:33 pm to
Sometimes death is more humane.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22931 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:35 pm to
Do you not think this will be abused?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:38 pm to
My life is my own and the government shouldn't have any say in my continuing or ending it.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:38 pm to
How can a physician ethically do this? He swore an oath yet by doing this he is breaking it.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:39 pm to
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How can a physician ethically do this? He swore an oath yet by doing this he is breaking it.


And yet they abort babies!
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35395 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:39 pm to
Oregon has had this for years along with two other states.

Death with Dignity Acts

Every human being has the right to choose how they go.

Hospitals already give most terminal patients near the end huge doses of morphine to ease the pain.

What's the difference if someone wants to ease the pain earlier?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50215 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:49 pm to
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Do you not think this will be abused?


Abuse of it should be considered murder.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20266 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:50 pm to
Both my parents passed away in hospice. As someone earlier said, sometimes death is more humane.

If you ever have a loved one with a terminal illness in continuous agonizing pain, and losing weight to the point where they weigh under 80 lbs, you will realize the benefits of this line of thought.

I don't think you can just sign up and commit suicide because Alabama beat your team again, there will be strict requirements to qualify.
Posted by Bullredbf
thibodaux
Member since Feb 2013
901 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:52 pm to
I swore an oath to do no harm. Is this harm or is it acting in the best interest of my patient to end his/her life with dignity? Its is a fine line I agree. But if u watch these poor people suffer endlessly despite high doses of narcotics, then u can start to see the rationale behind this. It has to be a true terminal diagnosis for this to be reasonable.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22931 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:56 pm to
I guess I don't understand all of it.

I would think most people, like in the example you used, are medicated.

Should a medicated person be able to make a life and death decision? If not, I personally wouldn't leave it to the doctor, doctors are wrong all the time.

I was thinking a non medicated terminally ill patient could make the call and I would be ok with that, but then again I would think every terminally ill patient would be medicated to some degree, so that kills that reasoning to me
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
17110 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:57 pm to
Most people don't allow their pets to suffer agonizing deaths. As long as certain criteria are met, and the patient agrees, I have no problem with it.

I watched my dad die of liver cancer. Not sure he would have made this choice, but it should be an option.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29117 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:01 pm to
totally for this. seems shitty to force someone with terminal illness to suffer.
Posted by Bullredbf
thibodaux
Member since Feb 2013
901 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:01 pm to
The avg person has no true understanding of it unless they have seen a family member go thru it. They are generally medicated but have built up tolerances that the dosages would kill u or i but it barley phases them. It is very sad to watch and can take a lot out of a physician much less the family watching it. Its a discussion that we have in the office weekly. Most docs i work with agree that it has its place, but needs to be watched closely for abuses
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35395 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:01 pm to
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Should a medicated person be able to make a life and death decision? If not, I personally wouldn't leave it to the doctor, doctors are wrong all the time.

I was thinking a non medicated terminally ill patient could make the call and I would be ok with that, but then again I would think every terminally ill patient would be medicated to some degree, so that kills that reasoning to me


States that allow this like Oregon...

People fill out Directives while they are still lucid...about whether they want life-saving measures taken or not...

That's the obvious part. You can refuse life-saving medical assistance and they will then just pump you full of morphine and let nature take its course.

But if they are lucid, before you get really really bad...you can request basically suicide rather than just pain meds and waiting for example the kidneys or liver to shut down.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:02 pm to
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Not sure he would have made this choice, but it should be an option.


In the states and foreign countries where it's legal, they've found that the vast majority of people still don't use this option, but it gives them peace of mind knowing it's available.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6439 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:04 pm to
If someone wants to humanely die in a bed peacefully then let them. This should be passed nation wide.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6439 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:07 pm to
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And yet they abort babies!


And they do this for good reason. Again, allowing people to govern their own bodies and lives.
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