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re: Christians Can Learn tolerance from Muslim Migrants per German Finance Minister
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:20 pm to Machine
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:20 pm to Machine
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i think my favorite quote is: "narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." when most of you pass through the pearly gates, jesus will say 'i never knew you' because you're shitty people that don't embody what he taught This post was edited on 5/26 at 10:48 am
What you're doing here is textbook "judging." It's literally the object of the verse "judge not lest you be judged." Solid work.
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:21 pm to the808bass
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What you're doing here is textbook "judging." It's literally the object of the verse "judge not lest you be judged." Solid work.
relax, dude. its all mythology anyway.
when we die we die. like the jews say.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:24 pm to Machine
Which was the second hilarious point. You're espousing beliefs you don't believe to try to score points on a message board. But you're a caricature of yourself anyway. No one takes you seriously.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:26 pm to Machine
quote:I urge you to repent of your unbelief and put your trust in Christ to save you from your sins. Regardless of how you grew up, if you turn to Christ you will not perish in your sin.
relax, dude. its all mythology anyway.
when we die we die. like the jews say
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:27 pm to the808bass
quote:oh my god
No one takes you seriously.
are you serious?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:27 pm to FooManChoo
quote:ah Jesus
I urge you to repent of your unbelief and put your trust in Christ to save you from your sins. Regardless of how you grew up, if you turn to Christ you will not perish in your sin.
I like him very much
but he no help with curveball.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:28 pm to Machine
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when we die we die. like the jews say.
You do realize the Jews are still waiting on Messiah, right?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:29 pm to Machine
Up voted.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:30 pm to Lg
quote:and that changes the fact that when you die, per judaism, your soul returns to the divine source, to become one with everything?
You do realize the Jews are still waiting on Messiah, right?
(in other words you cease to exist)
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:52 pm to Machine
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(in other words you cease to exist)
You sure about that?
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The Messianic Age
The messianic age is a period in human history that will be initiated when the messiah comes. At that time the righteous dead will be resurrected, but the wicked will not. The messianic age will be a time of peace and the restoration of the land and organizations of Israel.
Dead being raised to life doesn't sound like ceasing to exist.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:55 pm to Lg
quote:depends on what denomination of Judaism you subscribe to
Dead being raised to life doesn't sound like ceasing to exist.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:59 pm to Lg
Not to mention that when Saul visited the witch of Endor, she conjured up the spirit of Samuel. Not sure how that could happen if Samuel's spirit was annihilated after he died.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:03 pm to FooManChoo
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Not to mention that when Saul visited the witch of Endor, she conjured up the spirit of Samuel. Not sure how that could happen if Samuel's spirit was annihilated after he died.
Reform Judaism wasn't around when "Samuel's spirit was conjured"
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:06 pm to Machine
quote:Must be nice to be able to take a religion that has existed for thousands of years and completely turn it on its head because you (the sect founders) don't like what it teaches.
Reform Judaism wasn't around when "Samuel's spirit was conjured"
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:12 pm to Machine
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Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
I'll do some checking but I don't believe that particular piece of scripture would apply to enemies who have a stated mission of convert to Islam or face the sword.
Much of the Bible has to have the preceding/following chapters and verses brought into the fold for complete context.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:14 pm to FooManChoo
quote:agreed
Must be nice to be able to take a religion that has existed for thousands of years and completely turn it on its head because you (the sect founders) don't like what it teaches.
lol at Protestants
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:16 pm to Machine
quote:I knew that would come from somewhere, except Protestants believe they recaptured the faith from the the beginning of Christianity rather than coming up with something "new" when the Reformation took place.
agreed
lol at Protestants
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:18 pm to Machine
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Christians could learn tolerance by reading the New Testament and actually following Jesus' message
Matthew 10:34
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Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Matthew 24:6-7
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And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
Romans 13:4
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For he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
Jesus also cited the Old Testament, so it's fair game as well.
Numbers 10:9
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And when you go to war in your land against the adversary who oppresses you, then you shall sound an alarm with the trumpets, that you may be remembered before the Lord your God, and you shall be saved from your enemies.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:19 pm to FooManChoo
quote:eventually everybody realizes the believing in fairy tales is absurd. Reform Jews look at the world more realistically then orthodox and conservatives
I knew that would come from somewhere, except Protestants believe they recaptured the faith from the the beginning of Christianity rather than coming up with something "new" when the Reformation took place.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:21 pm to TerryDawg03
Context is important with all those verses. He wasn't commanding anyone to take up the sword. He was predicting the 2nd coming, where there will be a great tribulation against the people of God and Christ will return and bear the sword, Himself, and defeat His enemies.
The Romans 13:4 passage is laughable in this context. Paul was talking about submitting to the ruling authorities who "bear the sword" (of justice) against the wrongdoer. He was saying that Christians should obey the government and he was saying it to Christians being persecuted by a wicked Roman emperor.
ETA: Christ was also talking about bringing division and enmity, even within households where a father believes and a son doesn't, or a mother believes and a daughter doesn't. He wasn't talking about taking up the sword to kill unbelievers but talking figuratively about strife that would exist because He came to show people the truth.
The Romans 13:4 passage is laughable in this context. Paul was talking about submitting to the ruling authorities who "bear the sword" (of justice) against the wrongdoer. He was saying that Christians should obey the government and he was saying it to Christians being persecuted by a wicked Roman emperor.
ETA: Christ was also talking about bringing division and enmity, even within households where a father believes and a son doesn't, or a mother believes and a daughter doesn't. He wasn't talking about taking up the sword to kill unbelievers but talking figuratively about strife that would exist because He came to show people the truth.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 3:28 pm
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