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re: Christian Artists Could Be Fined, Jailed for Refusing to Make Gay Wedding Cards
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:12 pm to ballscaster
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:12 pm to ballscaster
quote:The law is unjust as it violates their 1st amendment rights, which is why I said the SCOTUS needs to deal with this and bring back allowance for religious conviction.
Ahem--Broke the law.
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:42 pm to ballscaster
So we legislate celebrations now?
I think that's messed up
I think that's messed up
Posted on 12/8/16 at 5:53 pm to ballscaster
quote:
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The fact that several Christian-owned businesses have been fined and even driven out of business because they brought their religion to work
quote:
Ahem--Broke the law.
Will you support this when a gay, Jew, or Christian go into a muzzie bakery and demand they make them a cake with the gay flag, Star of David, or Babe the Pig ?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 6:18 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Conflating the running of a business and the practice of religion won't work. Sorry. What you say makes no sense.
The law is unjust as it violates their 1st amendment rights
Posted on 12/8/16 at 6:19 pm to crazyatthecamp
quote:Not what's happening. Your spin, not mine.
So we legislate celebrations now?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 6:20 pm to 91TIGER
quote:Of course not. Custom-made products are not the issue here.
Will you support this when a gay, Jew, or Christian go into a muzzie bakery and demand they make them a cake with the gay flag, Star of David, or Babe the Pig ?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 6:21 pm to ballscaster
Take a poke at the above, if you're OK with it I will agree to disagree with you but will respect your view.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 6:22 pm to themunch
quote:Not what's happening. Businesses are being required to follow the law.
Why the surge to force people to do their wants and needs when they can easily get someone of the same belief system to do it?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:10 pm to ballscaster
This is a two-pronged attack by the left. I think the primary aim is the erosion of private property rights by the government. The harassment of Judeo-Christian beliefs and believers is just an added ancillary benefit.
I've thought the persecution of smokers in this country was always a veiled move to strip private business and property owners of their rights. I don't smoke and hate smoking. But my opinion, nor an ardent smoker's opinion should even be considered. But the one person who's thoughts on the matter that should count who is completely ignored? The business owner.
I've thought the persecution of smokers in this country was always a veiled move to strip private business and property owners of their rights. I don't smoke and hate smoking. But my opinion, nor an ardent smoker's opinion should even be considered. But the one person who's thoughts on the matter that should count who is completely ignored? The business owner.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:15 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:=/= business. Another instance of people trying to conflate two things to further their agenda.
property
One thing you are not allowed to do on your property is operate a licensed business that is not compliant with the law.
Business, property, and religion are three separate things.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:44 pm to ballscaster
quote:
ballscaster
FFS, dude, let it go. It's a philosophical debate, not a legal one.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:46 pm to The First Cut
The thread title mentions a legal situation and nothing having to with philosophy.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:47 pm to ballscaster
Good grief, man.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:49 pm to ballscaster
Gladly, 
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:58 pm to ballscaster
quote:Religious practice goes beyond the walls of a church building. Conflation is appropriate when you can legitimately mix two things together. You can operate a business with Christian principles and do both simultaneously.
Conflating the running of a business and the practice of religion won't work. Sorry. What you say makes no sense.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:06 pm to FooManChoo
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You can operate a business with Christian principles and do both simultaneously.
Except that it's not a Christian principle to discriminate.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:08 pm to ballscaster
quote:
Ahem--Broke the law.
So NOW you are concerned about following the law?? What about the Attorney General and POTUS Obama selecting which laws they wanted to enforce?? Example: Sanctuary cities
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:12 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Of course you can. But it isn't your first amendment right to have the state cater to your wish to mix the two. Whether or not you are able to run a business that is compliant with the law as well as with your chosen moral code is a dilemma whose solution is your responsibility and not the state's.
Religious practice goes beyond the walls of a church building. Conflation is appropriate when you can legitimately mix two things together. You can operate a business with Christian principles and do both simultaneously.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:13 pm to Friscodog
quote:Can't stand 'em.
Attorney General and POTUS Obama
quote:If sanctuary cities are breaking the law, I am all for enforcement. I am not sure that breaks the law, though.
Sanctuary cities
I'm not inconsistent on this.
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