CA. Secession: The people organizing must have Water on the brain

Maybe that will help with the constant droughts

The #1 reason CALEXIT makes me laugh is because even if successful and the US let California leave, it's hilarious that liberal Californians think that means they'll take their borders with them.

They usually say shite like "well be fine cause we grow yadda yadda yadda".

I'm like. Bitch please. You frickers that want to leave don't grow shite and the people who do don't want any fricking part of you.

If CALEXIT happened, what actually left would be a fraction of the state.

Instead of trying to make a new country they should just have their congressmen vote for less federal involvement in each state and then they would get what they would be after

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Anyone, including Texas, that is really thinking about this are true morons to the highest degree.

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Call people any name you like, but there is a very credible case that Texas could secede unilaterally and legally from the United States, should a majority (i.e., the 50+1 rule) of its residents choose that route. The singular goal of the Texas Nationalist Movement (of which I am a member) is to get the issue on a ballot for a vote.

Texas GDP is $1.65 trillion, which would place it 12th among all nations if it seceded – barely behind Canada and Russia, and ahead of Australia, South Korea, Spain, and Mexico. Texas, wisely, has its own electricity grid, making secession and subsequent electrical decoupling from what remains of the US far less complicated.

The legalities and issues you raise have been analyzed in detail by TX secessionist organizations.

1. Federal land
Texas would have to compensate the US. External arbitration could decide value. Regarding the source of this money: According to data from the IRS, Texas paid $245 billion in 2015 federal taxes. According to the Texas' Legislative Budget Board's most recent report, federal appropriations to Texas in the 2014-2015 biennium totaled $68.7 billion, or about 34 percent of the state's budget. This money would be free to use for other causes. But definite belt-tightening would have to occur.

As of 2014, Texas's per capita GDP in current dollars was about $61,200, which would make it one of the top 10 wealthiest nations on the planet, equal to Australia. Most of this top 10 is made up of very small and geopolitically irrelevant nations (Liechtenstein, Qatar, Luxembourg, Bermuda, Norway, and Switzerland), meaning that it would be Texas and Australia as the two wealthiest among the serious players.

An independent Texas would have the highest per capita GDP in the newly reconstituted G7. For perspective, Texas's per capita GDP is 12% higher than the rest of the USA's, 22% larger than Canada's, 28% larger than Germany's, 32% larger than the U.K.'s, 43% larger than France's, 72% larger than Japan's, and 77% larger than Italy's.


2. Currency
Probably the least problematic of the issues. Bring back the Republic of Texas notes. With a devalued currency and very little labor regulations, Texas would become a manufacturing haven, with the English language, easy access to the American markets, qualified workers, but lower prices and less regulation than America. As stated by Forbes:

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With no Goldman Sachses and JP Morgans to block any reform, Texas could implement a handful of common sense, anti-TBTF regulations and deregulate everything else. That, plus low taxes, plus great weather, plus a highly-educated English-speaking workforce, creates the first real, serious rival to Wall Street. The behemoths who rely on TBTF legislation would have to stay put, but entrepreneurial financiers would quickly come in droves to set up hedge funds, boutique banks, private equity funds and other investment firms, and create the good kind of financial innovation.

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3) Social Security benefits
The Republic would have to show an organizational plan. There would definitely be a grandfathering period; but that's not at all an impossibility.


4) Military
Texas already has several such groups. Combined with those Texas military personnel who are currently in the US military (including many of the nation's top officers), this is not an impediment.


5) Property rights
Accept compensation for your property, or relocate.

Al sounds good on paper. But a lot of assumptions are left out.

1) states leaving are responsible for a portion of national debt
2) those voting to stay, now are forced with leaving or changing citizenship.
3) you talked about federal land, what about federal property - courthouse, military bases, ect and the assists within. What about bonds on federal highways, bridges, transportation?
4) commerce and trade agreements. If the 49 states left dont like the move they can place tariffs. What about businesses jumping ship?
5) as with the case with Texas, what if Austin and their liberal growth decide to leave Texas and remain USA.?
6) ports and trade hubs. You think cargo destined for the remaining us will still go to Houston? It would shift to New Orleans or Miami. Why would freight cross Mexico to taxes to go to the us. It will bypass Texas and go Arizona, Nm, or Cali.
7) would corporations like Exxon-Mobil move head quarters out of Texas?

This is just a start

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Havoc

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population is enslaved and put into labor camps, moved to Alaska or sold

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Checks

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have Water on the brain

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Well, that's the only place they have potable water.