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Berkeley professors and students call for cancellation of Milo's talk
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:55 am
So much for the Free Speech Movement.
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Here's the link to where it mentions some students are also calling for the cancellation of Milo's talk.
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UC Berkeley professors request cancellation of Milo Yiannopoulos talk
BY GIBSON CHU | STAFFLAST UPDATED JANUARY 12, 2017
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Twelve UC Berkeley professors sent a letter to Chancellor Nicholas Dirks requesting that campus administration cancel Berkeley College Republican’s event for Milo Yiannopoulos.
Calling his conduct “harassment, slander, defamation, and hate speech,” the letter cites examples of Yiannopoulos’s words and actions that the professors say violate UC Berkeley’s code of conduct as reasons to cancel Yiannopoulos’s talk Feb. 1. Since the letter was sent Jan. 3, nearly 90 additional professors have signed it, giving their support.
“We believe wholeheartedly in free speech and in the presentation of views that may be controversial or disturbing, politically or personally,” said David Landreth, one of the 12 professors who authored the letter, in an email. “However, Mr. Yiannopoulos’s public talks routinely veer into direct personal harassment of individuals; they often also call for such harassment and aim to incite it.”
The letter said women were referred to as “counts” at Yiannopoulos’s talk at the University of West Virginia and transgender people were called “mentally ill” at his talk at the University of Delaware. As of July this year, Yiannopoulos was also banned from Twitter for encouraging his followers to attack an African American actress with hate speech, according to the letter.
At the University of Wisconsin, Yiannopoulos projected an image of a transgender student on a screen during his presentation, which was also being live broadcast onto the Breitbart News website, and began to “ridicule” and “vilify” her, causing the student to withdraw from the university, said the letter. This is similar to what the authors called “target cam,” where Yiannopoulos picks a student to display on his screen during his talks, another example of harassment.
The authors also questioned the cost of security for the event, asking in the letter how the estimated security costs of $10,000 will help the campus prevent harassment during the event...In response to the professors’ letter, Associate Chancellor Nils Gilman said the university would not engage in a “prior restraint of speech,” as the First Amendment prohibits the campus administration from restricting invited speakers based on their viewpoint.
“The University may not engage in prior restraint of speech based on concern that a speaker’s message may trigger disruptions,” Gilman said in the letter. “We also note that at the heart of these constitutional rules is the objective of preventing opponents from effectively shutting down expressive activity that they don’t like, the ‘heckler’s veto’ as it is often known.”
Another letter, written by the same 12 professors and sent Jan. 4, responded to Gilman by saying freedom of speech did not override the campus’s responsibility to protect students from harassment. It also continued to question the course of action the campus will take in the event harassment occurs.
Here's the link to where it mentions some students are also calling for the cancellation of Milo's talk.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:58 am to DawgfaninCa
Sounds like good communist at work, milo to Siberia?
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 9:59 am
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:00 am to DawgfaninCa
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Mr. Yiannopoulos’s public talks routinely veer into direct personal harassment of individuals; they often also call for such harassment and aim to incite i
...because said individuals routinely interrupt the event and rudely harangue Mr. Yiannopoulos.
Don't start no shite won't be no shite.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:00 am to jb4
Ok Dims, why all the hate against free speech when your party is marching and speaking on every subject?
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:04 am to DawgfaninCa
quote:thats a lie
We believe wholeheartedly in free speech and in the presentation of views that may be controversial or disturbing, politically or personally
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:05 am to DawgfaninCa
quote:Sure you do.
“We believe wholeheartedly in free speech and in the presentation of views that may be controversial or disturbing, politically or personally,” said David Landreth
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:06 am to DawgfaninCa
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At the University of Wisconsin, Yiannopoulos projected an image of a transgender student on a screen during his presentation, which was also being live broadcast onto the Breitbart News website, and began to “ridicule” and “vilify” her, causing the student to withdraw from the university, said the letter. This is similar to what the authors called “target cam,” where Yiannopoulos picks a student to display on his screen during his talks, another example of harassment.
While I wholeheartedly disagree with preventing Milo from speaking, if the above is true, I agree it's going too far (unless the student he displayed instigated the interaction with Milo).
It's one thing to speak your mind, but another to draw attention to an individual and turn them into a target (without them "asking for it" so to speak).
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:06 am to DawgfaninCa
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transgender people were called “mentally ill”
It sounds like that professor may want to do a bit of a literature review on that topic. The medical community has held that opinion for quite sometime.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:07 am to DawgfaninCa
So open, so accepting and so brave!
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 10:08 am
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:14 am to DawgfaninCa
Bc when I think nazi klansman, I think of an ostentatiously gay half-Jew, Catholic Brit.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:17 am to DawgfaninCa
The way to handle Milo is to ignore him, he's nothing but an attention whore who feeds off this stuff.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:18 am to DawgfaninCa
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However, Mr. Yiannopoulos’s public talks routinely veer into direct personal harassment of individuals;
That's not a very bright line standard. A speaker could not give a lecture on North Korea because he says "Kim Jong Un is a nut."
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:18 am to Bmath
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Berkeley professors and students call for cancellation of Milo's talk by Bmath
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transgender people were called “mentally ill”
It sounds like that professor may want to do a bit of a literature review on that topic. The medical community has held that opinion for quite sometime.
I mean, what else could it possibly be when a person's brain decides his/body is "wrong"? "Sorry, body, but my brain has decided you're wrong and you shouldn't have grown that dick so I'm going to have to chop it off now."
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:22 am to DawgfaninCa
Ain't nobody forcing the pantywaisters to go to his speech. Let them stay in their safe rooms and tweet and twit. Milo doesn't give a shite and neither should anyone else. Maybe there are students who do want to hear him.
Why shouldn't they be afforded that opportunity?
Why shouldn't they be afforded that opportunity?
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:28 am to UGATiger26
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While I wholeheartedly disagree with preventing Milo from speaking, if the above is true, I agree it's going too far (unless the student he displayed instigated the interaction with Milo).
It's one thing to speak your mind, but another to draw attention to an individual and turn them into a target (without them "asking for it" so to speak).
If he slanders or defames you, their remedy is in the civil courts. You don't get to stop him from saying it, you get to civilly punish him afterward.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:46 am to Tigerlaff
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If he slanders or defames you, their remedy is in the civil courts. You don't get to stop him from saying it, you get to civilly punish him afterward.
That's great and all. I'm not talking about this from a legal standpoint. I'm talking about it from a human decency standpoint.
To single out an unsuspecting student as a target of ridicule is a bullshite way of making your point.
Again, if the student is the instigator, or otherwise draws the attention to them self, than I say everything's fair game.
It's if he singles out unsuspecting students that I would have a problem with. Any University administrator would have a problem with it as well.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/27/17 at 11:27 am to UGATiger26
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To single out an unsuspecting student as a target of ridicule is a bullshite way of making your point.
Again, if the student is the instigator, or otherwise draws the attention to them self, than I say everything's fair game.
It's if he singles out unsuspecting students that I would have a problem with. Any University administrator would have a problem with it as well.
All the videos I've watched of Milo speaking show him only picking on someone in the audience after that member of the audience disrupted Milo's talk.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 11:28 am to UGATiger26
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It's one thing to speak your mind, but another to draw attention to an individual and turn them into a target (without them "asking for it" so to speak).
the people he mocks are the protestors who are disruptive
so yes they are asking for it
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:00 pm to DawgfaninCa
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All the videos I've watched of Milo speaking show him only picking on someone in the audience after that member of the audience disrupted Milo's talk.
If that's the case, I have no problem.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:30 pm to back9Tiger
California Democrats- the same group that calls it free speech when a dozen black guys in their forties film and publish them gang bang an high school girl in every hole she's got... and their worried about the morality of this Milo.
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