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Bannon's Worldview from 2014 talk - interesting

Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:21 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:21 pm
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Bannon: That’s a great question. The 2008 crisis, I think the financial crisis — which, by the way, I don’t think we’ve come through — is really driven I believe by the greed, much of it driven by the greed of the investment banks. My old firm, Goldman Sachs — traditionally the best banks are leveraged 8:1. When we had the financial crisis in 2008, the investment banks were leveraged 35:1. Those rules had specifically been changed by a guy named Hank Paulson. He was secretary of Treasury. As chairman of Goldman Sachs, he had gone to Washington years before and asked for those changes. That made the banks not really investment banks, but made them hedge funds — and highly susceptible to changes in liquidity. And so the crisis of 2008 was, quite frankly, really never recovered from in the United States. It’s one of the reasons last quarter you saw 2.9% negative growth in a quarter. So the United States economy is in very, very tough shape.

And one of the reasons is that we’ve never really gone and dug down and sorted through the problems of 2008. Particularly the fact — think about it — not one criminal charge has ever been brought to any bank executive associated with 2008 crisis. And in fact, it gets worse. No bonuses and none of their equity was taken. So part of the prime drivers of the wealth that they took in the 15 years leading up to the crisis was not hit at all, and I think that’s one of the fuels of this populist revolt that we’re seeing as the tea party. So I think there are many, many measures, particularly about getting the banks on better footing, making them address all the liquid assets they have. I think you need a real clean-up of the banks balance sheets.

In addition, I think you really need to go back and make banks do what they do: Commercial banks lend money, and investment banks invest in entrepreneurs and to get away from this trading — you know, the hedge fund securitization, which they’ve all become basically trading operations and securitizations and not put capital back and really grow businesses and to grow the economy. So I think it’s a whole area that just — and I will tell you, the underpinning of this populist revolt is the financial crisis of 2008. That revolt, the way that it was dealt with, the way that the people who ran the banks and ran the hedge funds have never really been held accountable for what they did, has fueled much of the anger in the tea party movement in the United States.


LINK

It's a fairly long read. It's interesting how left/right populists overlap and agree on the 20008 banking/financial disaster. He discusses the racist elements drawn to the movement (dispels basically the notion that he himself is one). I agree with parts of his view but not others. Obviously a smart guy and at times, probably his own worst enemy.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 6:27 pm
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6249 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:28 pm to
He's right about the leverage. The I-banks were also once partnerships, and the partners didn't like their capital risked beyond normal parameters any more than anyone else. Once they became publicly traded entities, with access to public capital markets, liquidity became easy, and so did the leveraging.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14477 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:22 pm to
Wow, that was a fascinating read.

I really don't know that much about Bannon. This was very informative.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101267 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:26 pm to
Guy is certainly an outside the typical box sort of thinker. One can reasonably argue that's good or bad for Washington. It's the knee jerk attempt to demonize/dismiss such types without any foundation or basis that I find troublesome.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:43 pm to
It ties in with the fake news-Russia BS that's been floating around....for true partisans this is de rigueur...everyone else is a sheep except for people that agree with them.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

That’s a great question. The 2008 crisis, I think the financial crisis — which, by the way, I don’t think we’ve come through — is really driven I believe by the greed, much of it driven by the greed of the investment banks. My old firm, Goldman Sachs — traditionally the best banks are leveraged 8:1. When we had the financial crisis in 2008, the investment banks were leveraged 35:1. Those rules had specifically been changed by a guy named Hank Paulson. He was secretary of Treasury. As chairman of Goldman Sachs, he had gone to Washington years before and asked for those changes. That made the banks not really investment banks, but made them hedge funds — and highly susceptible to changes in liquidity. And so the crisis of 2008 was, quite frankly, really never recovered from in the United States. It’s one of the reasons last quarter you saw 2.9% negative growth in a quarter. So the United States economy is in very, very tough shape.


sounds like it was driven by the treasury policies.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

Guy is certainly an outside the typical box sort of thinker. One can reasonably argue that's good or bad for Washington. It's the knee jerk attempt to demonize/dismiss such types without any foundation or basis that I find troublesome.



Bannon is a true outsider in my opinion. too bad he didn't get an actual cabinet slot.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:50 pm to
Thanks for posting. Bookmarking for later.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29615 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:51 pm to
Good stuff. Thanks for posting
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28813 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:56 pm to
incredibly interesting read.

i'm not Bannon's biggest fan. i remember driving to the gym one morning and realizing that Mike Church wasn't on and this guy was on Sirius. i found him to be incredibly red meat... even more than Hannity.

I did come to respect him as incredibly intelligent, albeit... too partisan at times.

During the election, i noticed you never really heard him speak, but you did see the change in Trump's campaign from the second he and Connaway stepped on the scene.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80158 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:16 pm to
that is a fascinating read. Good find. Thanks for posting
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:18 pm to
Wow. If his views he expressed in the transcript are similar to how he will be advising Trump, we are truly in store for a very moderate administration with a lean to conservative.

He said a lot of things in that transcript that was on point.

I'm ready for the winning to become official.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 9:35 pm
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13905 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:59 pm to
Hates banks? Definitely anti-Jew.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Hates banks? Definitely anti-Jew.

Good
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:01 am to
quote:

quote:
Hates banks? Definitely anti-Jew.

Good


I guess you're the fringe that taints the movements.
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