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As a conservative, I'm glad the healthcare bill failed.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:21 pm
In the first place, why the frick didn't the GOPe have a better plan in place to replace Obamacare? They had 8 fricking years to come up with one, although they knew Obama would veto it.
Secondly, why the big rush? Why did it have to be passed so quickly? We have the majority in the House and Senate. I'd rather them deliberate and get it right instead of rushing it through lIke Obamacare was behind closed doors in the middle of the night.
Basically, I'm glad this failed if it was just meant to be a bandaid for the atrocity known as Obamacare.
Secondly, why the big rush? Why did it have to be passed so quickly? We have the majority in the House and Senate. I'd rather them deliberate and get it right instead of rushing it through lIke Obamacare was behind closed doors in the middle of the night.
Basically, I'm glad this failed if it was just meant to be a bandaid for the atrocity known as Obamacare.
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:23 pm to bhtigerfan
Every conservative should be glad. It's puzzling to see any that are disappointed.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:24 pm to bhtigerfan
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We have the majority in the House and Senate.
Who do you consider to be "we"?
I sure as hell don't consider the likes of Paul Ryan and McConnell to be on my side, so I don't think "we" have a majority at all
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:24 pm to bhtigerfan
Me too, considering it wasn't a conservative bill
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:25 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Me too, considering it wasn't a conservative bill
It wasn't
At the same time, anyone who thinks that Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell would bring a conservative healthcare bill to the floor for a vote is a retard
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:25 pm to bhtigerfan
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In the first place, why the frick didn't the GOPe have a better plan in place to replace Obamacare?
Your answer lies in your question.
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why the big rush?
Because Paul Ryan has been working on this for 20 years.
He had to try and shove his pet project through before someone else got any traction with something better *cough* Rand *cough*
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behind closed doors in the middle of the night.
Again, refer to your first question.
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I'm glad this failed
Very good that it did.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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It's puzzling to see any that are disappointed.
It's not disappointment so much as frustration at the GOPe. SoB's are only out for themselves.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:26 pm to bhtigerfan
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why the frick didn't the GOPe have a better plan in place to replace Obamacare?
Because the reality is that healthcare is very expensive and there is no plan that would make everyone happy without it costing a fortune.
There is basically no solution if the expectation is affordable healthcare for all. That is the hard reality.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:29 pm to Chuker
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There is basically no solution if the expectation is affordable healthcare for all. That is the hard reality.
The harder reality is that people won't accept this. What should have been done was a simple repeal; just get it back to what it was. Then let the private sector lead the way.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:29 pm to Chuker
I would agree with that. A "conservative healthcare bill" is an oxymoron.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:34 pm to bhtigerfan
why ?
Because leadership went the Reconciliation route.
(ie: couldn't adequately modify)
Because leadership went the Reconciliation route.
(ie: couldn't adequately modify)
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:35 pm to bhtigerfan
Why did Trump whip it as hard as he could if it was so bad? Can the God Emperor read?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:38 pm to PoundFoolish
If I were interested in moving forward with Healthcare then I would have a committees broken down on Healthcare for 6 months. Have a retreat and figure out what you want and how to proceed. You may have to pass the bill in small piece by small piece to get it through but it just goes to show you how bad they didn't want to touch this subject.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:40 pm to goldennugget
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I sure as hell don't consider the likes of Paul Ryan and McConnell to be on my side
I agree. It pisses me off when they claim to be conservative. They are not even close.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:42 pm to PoundFoolish
Did you miss the threads accusing conservatives that didn't support that trash bill of owning the ACA now?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:42 pm to Tigerdev
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Why did Trump whip it as hard as he could if it was so bad? Can the God Emperor read?
Maybe it was all a show?
Fail fast and move on because nobody wants to get bogged down on this issue. Healthcare can suck the life out of an administration.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:45 pm to Rakim
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Maybe it was all a show?
Fail fast and move on because nobody wants to get bogged down on this issue. Healthcare can suck the life out of an administration.
I know this seems like wishful thinking, but it may actually work out for the best that things get cleared out of the way before the tax reform, welfare reform, and likely education issues.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:48 pm to texashorn
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A "conservative healthcare bill" is an oxymoron.
well put
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Did you miss the threads accusing conservatives that didn't support that trash bill of owning the ACA now?
I wasn't wading through all that farcical drivel.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:53 pm to PoundFoolish
quote:Truth.
The harder reality is that people won't accept this. What should have been done was a simple repeal; just get it back to what it was. Then let the private sector lead the way.
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