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Arizona seeks to chill free speech
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:22 pm
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Sweet so the next time the tea party protests something in Arizona, all I have to do is show up, break a window, then run off and all the tea party protestors will be arrested and charged with racketeering
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SB1142 would make participating in or helping organize a protest that turns violent a criminal offense under the state’s racketeering (RICO) laws.
Sweet so the next time the tea party protests something in Arizona, all I have to do is show up, break a window, then run off and all the tea party protestors will be arrested and charged with racketeering
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Those tea party protests were famous for their violence... Oh, wait.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:24 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Preview of this thread: this is where all the so called "libertarians" show up and defend government overreach.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:24 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I have no issue with this in theory, the problem would come when peaceful protestors get charged for the actions of others.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:24 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Bad bill. Just because you organize an event doesn't mean you control the actions of the participants.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions
A big problem with stories like this is that one congressman drafts a bill like this, and the headlines make it seem like the entire state gov't is complicit.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Preview of this thread: this is where all the so called "libertarians" show up and defend government overreach.
Violent protests aren't protected by the 1st Amendment
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:25 pm to DumbCollegeKid
quote:
Those tea party protests were famous for their violence... Oh, wait.
First comment kill shot
/thread
Everyone can go home
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:26 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Violent protests aren't protected by the 1st Amendment
If you and I go together to protest something and halfway through I decide to go bonkers for whatever reason, does that mean you should be arrested and charged for the crimes I commit?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Preview of this thread: this is where all the so called "libertarians" show up and defend government overreach.
The last thread on this disagrees with this statement
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This happens in more than just politics. When a news story about a student at a college doing something stupid surfaces, SEC Rant uses it to not only ridicule that college but also the entire state.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:27 pm to Roger Klarvin
If some people are being violent, it doesn't mean the non violent ones should be lumped in with them.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:27 pm to DumbCollegeKid
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Those tea party protests were famous for their violence... Oh, wait.
Well it doesn't matter now, does it? All I have to do is infiltrate your group, become violent during the protest, and i take you all down with me.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:28 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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If you and I go together to protest something and halfway through I decide to go bonkers for whatever reason, does that mean you should be arrested and charged for the crimes I commit?
Of course not, and I noted this issue above.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:28 pm to hawgfaninc
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First comment kill shot
you have no clue what you're talking about
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:29 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Please show us the exact language of the statute as it would be amended.
Something tells me that you cannot be arrested merely for participating in a protest that turns into a riot UNLESS you conspired to and participated in the actual riot.
I suspect that "summary" you provided is just more "fake news."
Something tells me that you cannot be arrested merely for participating in a protest that turns into a riot UNLESS you conspired to and participated in the actual riot.
I suspect that "summary" you provided is just more "fake news."
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The violence in Berkley was endorsed by the event organizer. You know that. Still, I want you you to infiltrate a tea party group and test your theory.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:31 pm to MMauler
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I suspect that "summary" you provided is just more "fake news."
What are you basing that on other than hopes and wants?
Also, why do I have to do your homework for you? Are you incapable of researching the language yourself?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:31 pm to DumbCollegeKid
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The violence in Berkley was endorsed by the event organizer.
Link? And it better be something other than breitbart or Alex jones
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