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Are we going to buy this " don't have a motive yet" BS...

Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:45 am
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
4523 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:45 am
All the cameras and technology(NSA, CIA.FBI etc) and they are not letting the citizens know what the frick is going on. Why is stupid media not concerned? It was only the deadliest shooting in the countries history. Quit lying to the taxpayers!
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24571 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:48 am to
What if he was genuinely evil like Holmes or dahmer
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23645 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:52 am to
We know the motive. When he sent a letter to Ivanka and asked her to marry him she said she would't do it unless he shot up a country music concert, so he did. She got lucky that he was killed by the Saudis, who own part of the Madalay Bay Hotel. And now Trump is covering it all up because he doesn't want anyone to find out about the connections.

Is that "conspiracy" enough for you?

It's as true as most of the crap being spread around these days.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29615 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:55 am to
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hat if he was genuinely evil like Holmes or dahmer


You don't sound very sure.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:56 am to
Don’t know if you noticed, but we have no choice, with the lack of information about this it’s just being passed over and disappearing, it’s shocking
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:59 am to
Both of those examples killed and harmed people over decades of time. I have a hard time buying that some 64 year old goober who was allegedly a "mailman, real estate investor, pro video poker player, etc" suddenly decided he was evil and wanted to kill 50 people and injure 400
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 9:59 am
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24571 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:02 am to
Who the hell sounds sure in this?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:04 am to
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Both of those examples killed and harmed people over decades of time.
Holmes?
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28361 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:05 am to
The whole he won 5 million by playing video poker is BS. He laundered money using casinos. It's so obvious and the FBI thinks we're stupid
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:09 am to
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I have a hard time buying that some 64 year old goober who was allegedly a "mailman, real estate investor, pro video poker player, etc" suddenly decided he was evil and wanted to kill 50 people and injure 400


Ok, fine. But it's not unheard of that "goobers" lose their minds and commit atrocities. Especially after a few years on psychoactive drugs.

That's assuming he even lost his mind. There are thousands of mass murderers out there that are perfectly sound in mind but believe that killing massive amounts of people is the right thing to do. The are cheered on by other people who are also of sound mind. Books have been written about these people.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:09 am to
Maybe by not releasing it they can further the investigation and arrests if he was helped in the lead up to the event.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29615 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:21 am to
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Who the hell sounds sure in this?


There has been a "movement" which seems to be drawn along political lines to discredit those asking questions about the veracity of the MSM "story". Why is expecting more from our law enforcement and asking questions of MSM something which should be mocked as "tin foil hat" behavior?
You really think this guy Paddock and Dahmer are even in the same ballpark? Dahmer had a long history of sadistic behavior back to when he was a kid. By all accounts Paddock was living the American dream for 65 years. Have some intellectual honesty instead of being a political stooge.
Why is this shite even political??? Board libs on here defending MSM storyline like it's a presidential election. Don't you find that odd?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13313 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:41 am to
But, but, but it's the complexity of the attack!

I said a few days ago, we knew more about 9/11 after a week than we do Las Vegas, and the entire investigative force of the US government has has all access since the event. If it isn't a conspiracy, they know this by now. Which also means that they know if others are involved, and most likely why.

There's no reason to suppress the fact that a nutjob lost it, and went on a killing spree. But they can't do that because it will prove false, in my opinion.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31626 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:47 am to
You don’t kill this many people without WANTING people to know why.

Something is up that we don’t know why yet.

This notion, if at play here, that giving the dead killer a voice is harmful, is fricking bullshite and irresponsible.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:08 am to
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All the cameras and technology(NSA, CIA.FBI etc) and they are not letting the citizens know what the frick is going on.


It to these same agencies 20 years to crack the unibomber case.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31626 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:10 am to
Unabomber was an actual genius and tried not to get caught.
Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6621 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:16 am to
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cameras and technology(NSA, CIA.FBI etc) and they are not letting the citizens know
maybe that's because he purposely targeted conservatives, or maybe radical Muslim ideology is at the root of it. Our gov't loves to decide what's best for us, so they hide truths under the self-righteous guise of "what's best for our country" or "protecting our fellow Americans" or "maintaining domestic tranquility."
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Why is stupid media not concerned?
maybe because they'd have to admit he purposely chose a venue where he could kill conservatives with relatively little collateral damage inflicted on non-conservatives. Maybe the "he had an undiagnosed mental illness" narrative that is now coming out provides them some cover from that. And maybe that's why they pushed the "It wasn't political! Look! He scoped out some concerts whose attendees were much less likely conservative!" --- maybe he did scope them out, maybe he didn't, but he decided on the one with the most conservatives. Definitely political. Or maybe it was that ISIS thing again.
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re we going to buy this "don't have a motive yet" BS
No. Too many maybes for me, and I'd bet very few for the investigators. They're already sure of at least one motive, imo.


Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:16 am to

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The whole he won 5 million by playing video poker is BS. He laundered money using casinos. It's so obvious and the FBI thinks we're stupid



The money was all from real estate. Real estate transactions are public record so it was not hard for anyone to find, nothing unusual at all.

LINK

"After touring the 111-unit apartment complex in Mesquite, Texas with the brokers, Paddock bought it for $8.4 million, partly with the proceeds from selling some smaller properties in Los Angeles. When he sold Central Park Apartments a decade later, he had likely made $5 million to $6 million in profits, according to financial records reviewed by Reuters."
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70989 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:19 am to


Your perception of those agencies and their capabilities is thoroughly amusing.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:23 am to
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Unabomber was an actual genius and tried not to get caught.


Lot of people are making Paddock out to be cross between Jason Bourne and Texas Slim the poker player, I am not.
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