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Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites

for reciting the Pledge of Allegiance?

Are Southerners who fly confederate flags from their trailer porches hypocrites for shouting "USA! USA! USA!" at sporting events featuring American teams?







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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
Really?
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SlowFlowPro
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
you know i've said the pledge a whole lot but i've never actually thought of it as a real pledge. it's kind of just a social meme


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
tl;dr


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
"Seek and ye shall find"


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Rex
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
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you know i've said the pledge a whole lot but i've never actually thought of it as a real pledge.

So, it's meaningless except as some feel-good group exercise?


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
Rex mixed up his meds again


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
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it's meaningless except as some feel-good group exercise?

to me. i'm just one man

and i don't see where in the constitution it says states can't secede. as with many things in life, war settled the debate


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
I don't think hypocrite is the right descriptive term. Liars, maybe?

I could recite the pledge all day and if I didn't truly believe in it, then it really means nothing.



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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
we're also assuming people can't change their minds/pledges


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
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and i don't see where in the constitution it says states can't secede. as with many things in life, war settled the debate


Well said


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
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we're also assuming people can't change their minds/pledges
True. Also, take into account that if saying the pledge once resulted in your allegiance being set in stone, why do we repeat it on multiple occasions?


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
So, the bombs going off weren't because of white racist tea baggers. Thanks for posting.


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
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Are Southerners who fly confederate flags from their trailer porches hypocrites for shouting "USA! USA! USA!" at sporting events featuring American teams?


This is a completely separate question than what you posed in your OP.


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
Not really part of my question, but I found this quote interesting... from John Stuart Mill's "Contest in America", in which he addresses the issue of England allying with the Confederates (which had been a very strong possibility owing to some perceived grievances with the North, and because some Englishmen believed that since the Confederates had a right to secede the UK should avail itself of the cotton opportunities) having been defeated in Parliament:

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Every reader of a newspaper, to the farthest ends of the earth, would have believed and remembered one thing only—that at the critical juncture which was to decide whether slavery should blaze up afresh with increased vigor or be trodden out at the moment of conflict between the good and the evil spirit—at the dawn of a hope that the demon might now at last be chained and flung into the pit, England stepped in, and, for the sake of cotton, made Satan victorious.




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Rex
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
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This is a completely separate question than what you posed in your OP.

True, but I wanted to kill two birds with one stone.


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SlowFlowPro
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
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owing to some perceived grievances with the North

i think they had legit grievances against the US (the "north")

it was only 50 odd years since they had fought the US. in ancient terms that's like a weekend bender


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
It's appears Rex has received new orders to deflect attention away from the recent attacks by starting asinine threads on the Internet. A task he is well suited for.


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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
Perhaps I should have gone with "updated".


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