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re: Are Milo and Shapiro fighting for the heart of modern conservatism?

Posted on 10/14/17 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
1008 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 8:01 pm to
I hope not. Milo is an idiot troll and Shapiro is a swamp-dwelling rino neocon.

Bannon and Gorka are the heroes we need.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 8:03 pm
Posted by RantardoMontalbon
Member since May 2017
421 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 8:19 pm to
To save a thousand words here is an artist rendering of the Alternative Right.



I'm in a thread about conservative speakers suggesting that conservatism needs to embrace some social liberalism to be successful.

Go grab a crayon and try to connect those dots.

Then come back and call me a white supremacist.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 8:30 pm to
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To save a thousand words here is an artist rendering of the Alternative Right.


The fact that you used Pepe proves that you are gleefully ignorant on what the Alt Right is. Shapiro, Milo, and Sargon will tell you to your face that you're completely ignorant and to frick off for accusing them of being such. This isn't an MSM spin.

I encourage you to watch this entire video, and once you do, a simple "I was wrong and I'm ignorant as shite" will suffice as an apology: Shapiro on the Alternative Right and Charlottesville

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Then come back and call me a white supremacist.


I'm not calling you a white supremacist. I'm accusing you of being ignorant or stupid in not knowing what the Alternative Right entails and why Shapiro and Milo get pissed off by being lumped in with them and repeatably denounce them. There's no spin. They say it point blank to the camera that the Alternative Right is a despicable movement. Just because you like Frog Memes doesn't mean you're a member of the Alt-Right.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted by RantardoMontalbon
Member since May 2017
421 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 8:57 pm to
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I'm not calling you a white supremacist.

You have to call me a white supremacist because I am Alternative Right.

I'm also a White Nationalist. Because I have white skin and favor nationalist policies. But that's for another day.



Posted by DaGarun
Smashville
Member since Nov 2007
26180 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 8:59 pm to
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This Ben Shapiro?


Are you even going to link or cite the article you copied and pasted that from?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:29 pm to
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You have to call me a white supremacist because I am Alternative Right.

I'm also a White Nationalist. Because I have white skin and favor nationalist policies. But that's for another day.




You are either stupid and don't know what you're talking about, or you are a racist white supremacist piece of shite. But the fact that you are dumb enough to think that an Orthodox Jew whose grandparents were put in the gas chambers or a gay Catholic Jew who is married to a black guy that regularly fricks him in the arse are the future of the Alternative Right shows how delusional you are.

If the Alt-Right had its way, Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos would be the first two people thrown in the ovens. They both know this and are against the White Nationalist movement. So if you're serious about being a White Nationalist and Alt-Right, then yes, you're a total piece shite who castrate himself as soon as possible.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71326 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:33 pm to
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This Ben Shapiro?

Ben Shapiro, the conservative writer, prides himself on speaking bold truths to liberal power. His shtick goes something like this: Set up a speech in a progressive bastion, ideally a college campus full of coastal elites who have never left their bubble. Spar with snowflakes who are offended by something he says about race or gender and perhaps even believe he never should have been invited in the first place. Post the exchange on the internet and use it as proof that the cultural consensus is stacked

What Mr. Shapiro does on campus is shadow boxing meant to pander to his conservative fans whose values dominate mainstream American culture. If he wanted to be genuinely brave, he’d challenge some of the wrongheaded ideas held by his right-wing fans. Instead, he uses his megaphone — the website The Daily Wire — to reinforce what they already believe.




He's debated the Young Turks, Piers Morgan, Don Lemon, been on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and various others debating whomever will have him.

It is disingenuous to just say he only debates college students (also forgetting the fact he doesn't limit what questions they can ask giving them the full advantage).

He's also going on Sam Harris's podcast at some point in the near future, which presumably will contain some debate.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 9:37 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:41 pm to
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He's debated the Young Turks, Piers Morgan, Don Lemon, been on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and various others debating whomever will have him.

It is disingenuous to just say he only debates college students (also forgetting the fact he doesn't limit what questions they can ask giving them the full advantage).


He mockingly copied and pasted a recent hit piece on Shapiro from the New York Times that was garbage. He was being highly sarcastic.

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He's also going on Sam Harris's podcast at some point in the near future, which presumably will contain some debate.



Actually, he won't be on Sam's podcast anymore... instead they've expanded it to a town hall in San Francisco where they've rented out a major theater in December to debate in front of an audience and then take questions. Should be a real treat for anyone in the Bay area able to attend.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21855 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:43 pm to
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Ben Shapiro. There's just something about him that says, "I need my arse kicked".


It is the Poindexter Syndrome.

Everyone always hates the little guy who is smarter than everyone else in the room.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71326 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:47 pm to
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He mockingly copied and pasted a recent hit piece on Shapiro from the New York Times that was garbage. He was being highly sarcastic.



Oh ok.

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Actually, he won't be on Sam's podcast anymore... instead they've expanded it to a town hall in San Francisco where they've rented out a major theater in December to debate in front of an audience and then take questions. Should be a real treat for anyone in the Bay area able to attend.



Interesting, it'll be funny to watch Shapiro's quick vomiting facts/statements style with Sam Harris monotone.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:05 pm to
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Interesting, it'll be funny to watch Shapiro's quick vomiting facts/statements style with Sam Harris monotone.



They both have high respect for one another, so I expect it to be conversational if anything and not in need of a moderator. Shapiro and Harris get venomous quickly if someone won't behave civilly, but are delightful otherwise.
Posted by RantardoMontalbon
Member since May 2017
421 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:49 pm to
I don't know why you are so insistent on labeling me.

If I can choose something as important as my gender I certainly I choose something as innocuous as my political labeling.

Fascist.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:09 am to
Shapiro will destroy Milo. He is more well rounded when debating, makes more valid points, and doesn't go for headline attacks but actually makes incredible arguments.

Huge Shapiro fan. If it didn't show.

I like Milo too, but just not the same level. He is more of a try to trigger everyone, while Ben is trying to teach.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:19 am to
Ben is a katana,

Milo is a broad sword

Both kill the left in different ways.


Posted by RantardoMontalbon
Member since May 2017
421 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:00 am to
Have my fifth TD upvote.

The topic is poised as Shapiro vs. Milo.

The worthwhile discussion is why a traditional conservative who dislikes President Trump and a flaming gay Brit are on the same team.

They still don't get it.

Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:54 am to
Whaddabout Clam Chowder?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:00 am to
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I don't know why you are so insistent on labeling me.



You're the one who labelled yourself as Alternative Right and a White Nationalist. I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't one and that you're either too ignorant or stupid to realize what you are saying. To label Ben Shapiro (the literal #1 target of the Alt-Right) as the future of the Alternative Right is certifiably insane.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:01 am to
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Sheriff Joe has pink jumpsuits waiting for them


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