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Are Democrats really open to fixing ACA?

Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:42 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:42 am
Are they open to making the necessary changes to keep this legislature from imploding?

They have not demonstrated a willingness or ability to work with anyone across the isle any more than the freedom caucus has.

Protecting ACA without changing what makes it fundamentally flawed is just as unrealistic as demanding a full repeal.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 7:44 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98436 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:43 am to
no.

because they will not agree with what is wrong and what needs to be "fixed" (or how).
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:44 am to
They are, but by their own set of rules.

Guilt is everywhere, not just one party
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83516 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:44 am to
no

they will say they want to fix it, but argue about what needs to be "fixed" and blame the Republicans

and vice versa

Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30848 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:45 am to
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They have not demonstrated a willingness or ability to work with anyone across the isle any more than the freedom caucus has.


To be fair, neither has the other side. Senate Republicans confirmed that by holding the planning meeting in secret from even members of their own party.

To answer your initial question - maybe. Some have stated publicly that they want to fix the ACA. Of course, it may be a moot point if neither side agrees on which parts of ACA are actually broken.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32087 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:45 am to
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Guilt is everywhere, not just one party



The focus sure seems to be geared towards republican guilt.

Democrats had years to make necessary changes and didn't bother. IMO, this is everyone's chance to be pragmatic and actually work to make health care coverage more affordable for the young, healthy people that we need to enroll.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 7:47 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32087 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:46 am to
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they will say they want to fix it, but argue about what needs to be "fixed" and blame the Republicans



I think the insurance companies own more Democrats than Republicans at the moment.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:49 am to
Democrats created it.

Republicans failed to end it.

I agree much of the guilt is to lay with the originators of this bill, but when you campaign for 8 to end it and have nothing to show for it but failure, then there's some guilt for that as well.

It's a massive political failure.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:50 am to
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Are Democrats really open to fixing ACA?


If by fixing it you mean funding it then yes they are.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23631 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:55 am to
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Democrats had years to make necessary changes and didn't bother.


Actually the ACA was signed into law in 2010, Republicans took control of the House in the 2010 elections and have refused to consider anything but full repeal since that time. As the problems have arisen, Republicans have refused to permit any fixes. This effort of Republican sabotage has been ongoing since January of 2011.

The truth is that all efforts to adjust or correct provisions in the ACA have been blocked by these same Republicans who actually had no plan to replace it.

And yes, I agree, this is a chance to begin working in reality.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 7:56 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:55 am to
No

It's entirely about rubbing it in the faces of the Reps & Trump....PERIOD!
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:08 am to
There is no fixing Obamacare. Just let it fail the Dems own it. If the republicans try and fix it then it becomes theirs too.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:13 am to
I mean Hillary ran on fixing it, and many have said they're open to addressing it, so I'd say they are. But actions speak louder than words.


They have said touching Medicaid is non-starter, which makes sense when you look at the problems with ACA. The vast majority of the problems are in the individual market. The Medicaid expansion has been pretty successful where it was implemented.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:15 am to
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Are Democrats really open to fixing ACA?
Of course not. The don't think it needs fixing. 100% of the Dems in the senate voted for the status quo.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42104 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:17 am to
I doubt they're open to changing any of the major things that Republicans want to change/things that would actually put a big dent in premiums.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9414 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:17 am to
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The don't think it needs fixing.


Does it make you feel better to lie about it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421274 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:18 am to
when policies that expand government fail, there are historically 3 arguments made to defend the programs

1. we need more money
2. we need to enact more regulations (to "fix" the law or close "loopholes", typically)
3. we will get it right "next time"

the ACA has failed and what are we hearing?

"we need more money!"

"we need to enact the right regulations to fix the law!"

and a minor bit of the population is mumbling, "we need single payer"

so yeah it's all as expected
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:19 am to
Does it make you feel better to be ignorant?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32797 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:19 am to
They are because there are obvious failures. However, they won't compromise enough to get it done and they won't fix the real problems because it would be unpopular with their base.
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
6365 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:39 am to
not one member, whether one with a big 'D' or big 'R' beside their name, who allows the health care industry lobbyists to continue to write the actual legislation is interested in fixing any of it because these are the very people padding the members' pockets.

Just stop the belief there's actually a two-party system who are up there looking out for your best interests.

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