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Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - eta Final Study Released

Posted on 10/7/17 at 11:54 am
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
1914 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 11:54 am
ETA final report out LINK

Warning: This is an actual structural engineering analysis of WTC7 failure. Also, this guy doesn't give a shite about how you feel about conspiracy theories.

quote:

Building failure simulations show that, to match observation, the entire inner core of this building failed nearly simultaneously.


Short version is that the official "fire brought down WTC7" explanation is a bunch of BS. I expect the final version of this report to receive lots of mainstream attention when it comes out.

I'll warn you now... the video/presentation is pretty dry (in other words - technical) and not super easy to follow for non-technical types.

As expected, the structural analysis of the WTC7 collapse does not match up with the NIST evaluation at all. They pretty much did a piss poor job modeling the building failure.

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At the micro level, three types of evaluations were performed. In plan-view, the research team evaluated: 1) the planar response of the structural elements to the fire(s) using wire elements; 2) the building’s response using the NIST’s approach with solid elements; and 3) the validity of NIST’s findings using solid elements. At the macro-level, progressive collapse, i.e., the structural system’s response to local failures, is being studied using SAP2000 with wire elements, as well as with ABAQUS, and it is near completion. The findings thus far are that fire did not bring down this building. Building failure simulations show that, to match observation, the entire inner core of this building failed nearly simultaneously.


A Structural Reevaluation of the Collapse of World Trade Center 7 - UAF College of Engineering and Mines


Video

Slides

and one more again:

quote:

Building failure simulations show that, to match observation, the entire inner core of this building failed nearly simultaneously.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 6:52 pm
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:10 pm to
Great, you just sent up the TX Tiger signal.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:11 pm to
This board has already determined that fake news told us the truth on that day, and corrupt government took the day off that one specific day from being corrupt. And that the establishment had our best interests at heart just for that one day.

Real geniuses on this board.
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
1914 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:11 pm to
This is a study of WTC 7, not the main buildings 1 and 2.

Cognitive dissonance much?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:12 pm to
They're really programmed so well.
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
1914 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:12 pm to
Literally engineering. This isn't political although I did expect slight retardation in the thread.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98715 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

This isn't political


Then why post it on this board?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

The findings thus far are that fire did not bring down this building. Building failure simulations show that, to match observation, the entire inner core of this building failed nearly simultaneously.


1) Explosion removed the fire retardant insulation.

2) Intense heat caused weakening and embrittlement of the steal core.

3) Failure of steel core at points of impact caused excessive gravity load from the falling of that portion of the building above the point of impact.

This is entirely feasible and totally consistent with what I watched with my own eyes. I've used ABAQUS, studied materials science and designed steel structures.

I have not modelled this particular phenomenon.

There are engineers who will model anything and theorize anything. I don't put much stock in to this study. I have seen many studies that are not worth the paper they are printed on.

I have not read this study in detail.

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

This is a study of WTC 7, not the main buildings 1 and 2.

Cognitive dissonance much?
Anchored in 3, 2, 1.

You have to at least make an attempt to hate Muslims or wrap you mouth around Trump's junk in order to be a favorable poster here.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81280 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:15 pm to
Upvote - how anyone can trust our government at this point is beyond me.

People who thought that JFK was assassinated by the CIA were called "tinfoilers" for about 40 years. Now it's pretty widely accepted that he was killed by deep state / CIA / mil industrial complex.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64945 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:15 pm to
This video does well in explaining WTC 7:

LINK
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

This is a study of WTC 7, not the main buildings 1 and 2.


Well, shite.

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

3) Failure of steel core at points of impact caused excessive gravity load from the falling of that portion of the building above the point of impact.
Where was WTC7 impacted, and by what?

tia
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7725 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:24 pm to
If you don't have at least an inkling of suspicion about building 7 you need your head checked. I have no idea what really went down, but I am not buying the story that was told.
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11712 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Now it's pretty widely accepted that he was killed by deep state / CIA / mil industrial complex.


Wait, what?
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
1914 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Sid in Lakeshore


I agree with your sentiment. They are going to release everything, including the model(s) used.

They are an open book with everything they have done. The only hold up is their final release. At that point you can run the simulations with their data and adjust if necessary.
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7719 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:28 pm to
And the video of Larry Silverstein saying " Pull It " mean what to you? Here ya go - can't understand why his words are so hard to understand for some - ... LINK
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

If you don't have at least an inkling of suspicion about building 7 you need your head checked. I have no idea what really went down, but I am not buying the story that was told.
Nah, dude. This board has spent 13 years convincing me that anyone who doesn't believe what the establishment, fake news, and a corrupt government tells you, then you are a conspiracy kook.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29615 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:41 pm to
Sixteen years later these guys put this out? No rush or anything boys, just whenever you get around to it.
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