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"Apologizing for stuff you didn't do is an act of moral narcissism."
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:17 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:17 am
-Mark Steyn
Re: Bill Clinton apologizing for slavery, Tony Blair apologizing for Irish potato famine, Hildebeast apologizing to Guatemala for syphilis, and people wanting Abe to apologize for Pearl Harbor
Mark Steyn is a Jedi.
Re: Bill Clinton apologizing for slavery, Tony Blair apologizing for Irish potato famine, Hildebeast apologizing to Guatemala for syphilis, and people wanting Abe to apologize for Pearl Harbor
Mark Steyn is a Jedi.
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:19 am to SoulGlo
quote:
"Apologizing for stuff you didn't do is an act of moral narcissism."
Or empty pandering for political gain.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:19 am to SoulGlo
He annoys the shite out of me...but he's right.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:21 am to SoulGlo
How does this apply when one says "I'm sorry for your loss" to a person who lost a loved one?
Edit: Clearly a dumb post by me.
Edit: Clearly a dumb post by me.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:22 am to SoulGlo
It's another form of moral self-licensing: "I apologized for THAT bad act (of someone else), therefore I don't have to apologize for my own."
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:23 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
How does this apply when one says "I'm sorry for your loss" to a person who lost a loved one?
If you say "I apologize for your loss" then you killed their loved one.
Saying "I am sorry for your loss" means you have empathy for their pain and loss.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:27 am to SoulGlo
I apologize for human beings bombing Pearl Harbor! I also apologize for the Rape Of Nanking!
I'm now more moral than all of you.
I'm now more moral than all of you.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:30 am to SoulGlo
quote:Almost as bad as accepting an apology for stuff that didn't happen to you...
"Apologizing for stuff you didn't do is an act of moral narcissism."
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:32 am to SoulGlo
quote:
Re: Bill Clinton apologizing for slavery, Tony Blair apologizing for Irish potato famine, Hildebeast apologizing to Guatemala for syphilis, and people wanting Abe to apologize for Pearl Harbor
What did Lincoln have to do with Pearl Harbor? Is this another "Blame the Republicans" thing?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:37 am to SoulGlo
2 more hours of Steyn coming up. I'm gonna have to skip my nap. 
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:41 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
ow does this apply when one says "I'm sorry for your loss" to a person who lost a loved one
That is expressing empathy in that you feel sorrow for their loss.
Apologizing expresses responsibility.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:42 am to cokebottleag
quote:I apologize for heart disease and natural causes.
I apologize for human beings bombing Pearl Harbor! I also apologize for the Rape Of Nanking!
I'm now more moral than all of you.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 11:43 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:15 pm to flyAU
quote:Yeah that should have been way more obvious. Dumb post by me.
If you say "I apologize for your loss" then you killed their loved one.
Saying "I am sorry for your loss" means you have empathy for their pain and loss.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:17 pm to GurleyGirl
quote:
Or empty pandering for political gain.
Pandering for political gain is the quintessential example of moral narcissism, in most cases.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:10 pm to Ag Zwin
But in case you were halfway serious, Shinzo Abe. But yes, Pearl Harbor was the Republicans' fault. They should apologize.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:17 pm to SoulGlo
Sugoi!
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:17 pm to SoulGlo
quote:
Re: Bill Clinton apologizing for slavery, Tony Blair apologizing for Irish potato famine
They were the leaders of the entities (federal government, British Parliament) that perpetrated those crimes. They didn't do anything personally but the governments did and they were speaking on behalf of the government they represented at the time.
It would be meaningless if they did it today.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:25 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
They were the leaders of the entities (federal government, British Parliament) that perpetrated those crimes. They didn't do anything personally but the governments did and they were speaking on behalf of the government they represented at the time.
It would be meaningless if they did it today.
I can't connect your two statements.
Clinton and Blair had as much to do with slavery and the famine as Trump and May do now. What am I missing?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:40 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:
I can't connect your two statements.
Clinton and Blair had as much to do with slavery and the famine as Trump and May do now. What am I missing?
Clinton was President of the United States. The United States government perpetrated slavery. He apologized on behalf of the United States government, in his capacity as leader of that government. It was the government apologizing, not an individual.
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