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re: AP: Mexico weighing camps for massive wave of deportees
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:12 am to germandawg
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:12 am to germandawg
quote:Your humanitarian spirit is noted. I think you could, in all legitimacy, start a Go Fund me site, to raise enough money to purchase you a bus ticket to Mexico in order to help the Mexicans with the planning for the camps, so that they meet your moralistic standards. In fact, Mexico should do like Israel, and partition off a section of the country for all their repatriated citizens to start cities, and utilities and their own social services. You could be a real leader in this effort! You should organize a separatist movement in Mexico for all the repatriated Mexican citizens. I'm sure the government there will be as kind to you as the U.S. government is to those calling for Calexit in the U.S..
germandawg
Please let us know when you've taken these personal, positive steps to alleviate the world of indifference and unfairness to the plight of others. I know we'll support your efforts by contributing to your fund raising for the first step; your bus ticket out of the country.
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:15 am to bamarep
While writing this to tug at the heart strings
It reminds me of three things.
1. Those illegals weren't too concerned on their way into the U.S.
2. Another great reason to build a wall and stricter enforcement. What country wouldn't want to protect its own citizens from a violence-plagued land?
3. Mexico should enforce its borders and not allow so much access to our country.
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migrants might be dumped over the border into a violence-plagued land
It reminds me of three things.
1. Those illegals weren't too concerned on their way into the U.S.
2. Another great reason to build a wall and stricter enforcement. What country wouldn't want to protect its own citizens from a violence-plagued land?
3. Mexico should enforce its borders and not allow so much access to our country.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:18 am to germandawg
quote:The government can deny visas to countries that refuse to take back their own people. There are other ways to pressure them, but that's a big one. If you don't want your own people to come back to your country, you can't send them here.
Yes it is....but where are you going to deport them to if no nation claims them?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:38 am to bamarep
The US reserves the right to return immigrants to their point of entry. We are sending them back exactly where they came in. The horror!
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:47 am to germandawg
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that Mexico is more decent as a nation of HUMANS than the United States is there is no reason that Mexico should stand aside and allow the United States to invade their sovereigity with wave after wave of people who are coming from the United States and may or may not be Mexican citizens? One can easily imagine Mexico simply refusing to allow them entry.....or only doing so after very careful vetting....vetting that could take years and years and years to complete.
You have a valid point but I think they are going to have to get control of their internal situation. For too long they have allowed unfettered immigration to El Norte as a safety valve for their own population. They will have to take back Mexican citizens but the majority now are coming from Central America and elsewhere and they have no responsibility to accept those people.
I said this in another thread, there needs to be reform re: work visas and aa path to citizenship.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:55 am to bamarep
Well I heard Lars say last night as long as they have a high school diploma (from America) they'll go down there, be geniuses and probably have a better lifestyle than what they have here 
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:20 am to germandawg
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Here is a pretty good question...why would Mexico allow an invasion from the north into concentration camps on their soil? Other than the obvious answer...that Mexico is more decent as a nation of HUMANS than the United States is there is no reason that Mexico should stand aside and allow the United States to invade their sovereigity with wave after wave of people who are coming from the United States and may or may not be Mexican citizens? One can easily imagine Mexico simply refusing to allow them entry.....or only doing so after very careful vetting....vetting that could take years and years and years to complete. Of course then the only move we would have is to invade Mexico militarily....after all, the people need land.....right, 1930's Poland???
This is a textbook example of misunderstanding a problem, followed by logical failures, and the false conclusions and hyperbole that results.
Carry on.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:17 pm to bamarep
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migrants might be dumped over the border into a violence-plagued land where they have no ties while their asylum claims or deportation proceedings are heard in the United States. U.S. officials didn't say what Mexico would be expected to do with them
Starring Antonio Banderas
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:47 pm to TBoy
An effective guest worker program would take care of most of the problems with people being illegal. If they can enter as a guest worker to do seasonal work doing things like picking lettuce or carrying bricks, we can register them, tax them, and they can leave when the work project is done. I have never understood why we don't do this effectively.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:50 pm to TBoy
I could get behind this if they would indeed work then leave. However, why would they do that if they won't follow our immigration laws now?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 6:39 pm to bamarep
Strange I haven't heard one story even in the MSM about mass deportations?
I getting the feeling Mexico is being a drama queen.
I getting the feeling Mexico is being a drama queen.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 7:06 pm to TBoy
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An effective guest worker program would take care of most of the problems with people being illegal. If they can enter as a guest worker to do seasonal work doing things like picking lettuce or carrying bricks, we can register them, tax them, and they can leave when the work project is done.
We already have this. Citizens of Mexico or other places south can register at a border station and get a temporary agriculture permit.
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H-2A Temporary Agricultural Workers The H-2A program allows U.S. employers or U.S. agents who meet specific regulatory requirements to bring foreign nationals to the United States to fill temporary agricultural jobs. A U.S. employer,a U.S. agent as described in the regulations,or an association of U.S. agricultural producers named as a joint employer must file Form I-129, Petition for Nonimmigrant Worker, on a prospective worker’s behalf.
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I have never understood why we don't do this effectively.
I think a big turnoff of the federal temporary ag program is that the employer is responsible for the nonimmigrant temporary worker, meaning his or her shelter, healthcare, food.
Why do that when the Democrats around the USA are falling all over themselves to pay for illegals' shelter, healthcare and food?
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