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re: Alan Dershowitz: Trump’s bluff: Perfectly legal 'Corrupt motive' is a slippery slope
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:42 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:42 pm to cajunangelle
Dershowitz is such an attention whore, and please remember he helped get OJ off and freed Klaus von Bulow, both murderers guilty as sin. That should go without saying, but if you read the first article, where he compares himself to Lincoln and relates their respective bluffs concerning witnesses they got to recant on the stand, he fails to relate that to Comey. He starts out by saying "@real’s bluff was calculated to get Comey to tell the truth," and he later implies Comey was being "mendacious," but he fails to explain why any of that was a concern, much less how Comey contradicted himself "by spilling his guts" like one of their witnesses breaking down on the stand.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:44 pm
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:46 pm to cajunangelle
Becareful because Goldennugget isn't going to be happy that Dershowitz (a Jew) has once again stood up to back Trump. This is going to throw Goldennugget into a tailspin.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:20 pm to JuiceTerry
It was a warning to not lie. That's what Dershowitz and many others have and are saying.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:21 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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@real’s
Cute
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:49 pm to LSURulzSEC
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logic
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libtards
Reason, logic, and the Scientific Method are all constructs of Western Patriarchy.
The Left rejects it all.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:54 pm to LSURulzSEC
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Whoa...that is way too much logic and facts for the libtards to handle in one post...why you so mean?
Dershowitz is a libtard himself, I believe.
The left has lost its collective mind since Trump got elected. Nice to see some sanity on occasion.
I'll say this: the US cannot survive this absurd hyper-partisan era much longer. We either come together of fall apart, and soon, IMO.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:59 pm to JuiceTerry
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JuiceTerry
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:09 pm to cajunangelle
I like how the bar for Trump has been lowered so much, you guys now applaud when his actions are deemed "technically legal".
"Welp! It's douch-ey. It's irresponsible. It's a huge waste of time. But hey! It's not illegal. Hurrayyy!! MAGA!! Trump is the best "
"Welp! It's douch-ey. It's irresponsible. It's a huge waste of time. But hey! It's not illegal. Hurrayyy!! MAGA!! Trump is the best "
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:17 pm to cajunangelle
It's pretty simple if they want to get Trump for obstruction, they have to find bribery, intimidation, kickbacks, self dealing or any other kind of WC crimes as those are self explanatory as far as intent goes which is the main element of obstruction.
Trump will never be impeached for obstruction when the only thing that happened was using his constitutional power to fire an FBI director after he refused to clarify an ongoing narrative playing out in the public square that he started himself.
Trump will never be impeached for obstruction when the only thing that happened was using his constitutional power to fire an FBI director after he refused to clarify an ongoing narrative playing out in the public square that he started himself.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:19 pm to RollTide1987
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. Comey called Trump's bluff and lied anyway.
Oh. So the real reason Trump fired Comey is because he lied....makes sense .... except he admitted on TV that he fired him b/c of Russia.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:21 pm to a want
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I like how the bar for Trump has been lowered so much, you guys now applaud when his actions are deemed technically legal.
"Welp! It's douch-ey. It's irresponsible. It's a huge waste of time. But hey! It's not illegal. Hurrayyy!! MAGA!! Trump is the best "
Good luck convincing a non partisan federal judge that charges should be allowed in his courtroom just based on the facts here when the only provable action was that Trump used his legal authority to fire Comey and there's no confirmed acts of bribery, kickbacks, self dealing or coerced intimidation of any sort.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:29 pm to a want
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except he admitted on TV that he fired him b/c of Russia.
Trump fired Comey because he refused to clarify his role publicly in the Russia investigation or lack thereof as Comey personally and without being asked assured Trump that he was not under investigation.
Who the hell did Comey think he was letting the President of the United States be publicly slandered and defamed for being under investigation when he knew full well he was not and refused to correct the record?
J Edgar Hoover made a living off of bullshite like that to stay in power and exactly why the FBI director was term limited after his death by Congress.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:29 pm to Sentrius
Who is asking for charges over this?
You guys prop up strawman like this all the time just so you can "win". And as I pointed out above, you've set the bar for winning at "technically legal".
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My bad - just saw where you were including the Comey firing in your context. I thought your comment was based on "the tapes" statement only
You guys prop up strawman like this all the time just so you can "win". And as I pointed out above, you've set the bar for winning at "technically legal".
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My bad - just saw where you were including the Comey firing in your context. I thought your comment was based on "the tapes" statement only
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:33 pm to Sentrius
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Who the hell did Comey think he was letting the President of the United States be publicly slandered and defamed for being under investigation when he knew full well he was not and refused to correct the record?
He had just fricked up by doing that for Hillary Clinton, then had to come back and cover his arse. That's not how investigations work, and he wasn't going to take a chance on having to correct the record again. Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:43 pm to JuiceTerry
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He had just fricked up by doing that for Hillary Clinton, then had to come back and cover his arse.
Uh Hillary was absolutely under investigation and Comey cleared her.
What he fricked was that he publicly excruciated and castrated Hillary in clearing her and used the intent excuse as the basis for clearing her.
Had he just issued a simple press realease stating that the FBI found no wrong doing as far as Hillary was concerned and the FBI closed the investigation, he would've been in a much better spot. He chose to make a complete clown show out of it though.
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That's not how investigations work, and he wasn't going to take a chance on having to correct the record again.
According to Comey, there was no investigation of Trump in the first place. How does something that doesn't exist work again?
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:48 pm to Sentrius
Dershowitz has been getting some serious air time
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:52 pm to cajunangelle
Heck it wasn't even much of a bluff.
"James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!"
But it sure did call Comey out as a leaker which has been proved true.
"James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!"
But it sure did call Comey out as a leaker which has been proved true.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:02 pm to Sentrius
quote:And that's not the same as he never possibly could have been had evidence led that way. Which is still the case. The investigation is ongoing.
According to Comey, there was no investigation of Trump in the first place
Would it have made such a difference to publicly announce that Trump was not currently a target, but could be in the future?
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:14 pm to JuiceTerry
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And that's not the same as he never possibly could have been had evidence led that way. Which is still the case. The investigation is ongoing.
Would it have made such a difference to publicly announce that Trump was not currently a target, but could be in the future?
Well hell You could be the target in the future, so could Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy.
There has always been zero evidence of collusion, there was also never any evidence of wrong doing by Trump.
There never was any evidence of his transition team members doing anything wrong either. The only Russia investigation was a counter intelligence investigation.
But political hacks in the Obama administration unmasked and leaked the names of all Trump associated who had ever had a contact with the Russians because it could be spun for politics.
That is all this has ever been. Just plain old smear politics by the left.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:28 pm to Loserman
quote:This just isn't true, or rather, that investigation includes the Trump campaign. It really doesn't get more definitive than Comey's initial statement about the FBI investigation.
The only Russia investigation was a counter intelligence investigation.
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