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Air Force needs people

Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:52 am
Posted by 4Ghost
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:52 am
Air Force

Not good!
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8962 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:54 am to
What else did we expect to happen by purposely drawing down the numbers and asking those left to pick up the slack?

But, "Oh! Cut defense spending, and kick people out so we can spend less on personnel!"

Performance and operational capabilities be damned.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:02 am to
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“Your Air Force has been at war since Desert Shield/Desert Storm. This wing has been at war since that time for 25 years. We went to the Middle East when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, and we never left," said Col. Stephen Jost. At the start of the Gulf War, the Air Force had 134 fighter squadrons. Over the past few decades, that number has been cut to 55. Yet, the Air Force is conducting nearly 70 percent of the strike missions against ISIS and conducting 90 percent of midair refueling missions over Iraq and Syria since August 2014.


I'm sorry but I'm not going to take complaints about having to drop bombs on goat herders that pose zero threat to our aircraft or Air Force personnel from an Air Force that has the equipment and training to fight a superpower.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:04 am to
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I'm sorry but I'm not going to take complaints about having to drop bombs on goat herders that pose zero threat to our aircraft or Air Force personnel from an Air Force that has the equipment and training to fight a superpower.
It isn't the threat it's the deployment cycles.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20349 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:11 am to
Yeah, well that's what they get for not accepting me three years ago. "Too old" and "mentally unstable" my arse.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64583 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:20 am to
You made it to the 'watch list'. Congrats.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:27 am to
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It isn't the threat it's the deployment cycles.


What's the average deployment length for an airman?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:27 am to
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"Oh! Cut defense spending, and kick people out so we can spend less on personnel!"


Yep. absolutely. cut it to the bone.

quote:

Performance and operational capabilities be damned.




lol.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:29 am to
90-180 days 2:1 dwell time. My last three years I average over 200 day per year gone.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:31 am to
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What else did we expect to happen by purposely drawing down the numbers and asking those left to pick up the slack?

But, "Oh! Cut defense spending, and kick people out so we can spend less on personnel!"

Performance and operational capabilities be damned.


BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!

There really is a function in the Defense Establishment that says the less you can spend on people, the more you can spend on R&D, and exotic grossly overpriced weapons.
That is where the money is in Defense stocks.

So the troops' pay, their housing, their perks (Commisaries, allowances for housing, etc.) the education and health care of their dependents -- frick all that.

frick their care when they get wounded.

But do fly a flag on Veterans' Day.

We have got to break up the Defense Establishment as it exists today.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 11:33 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:33 am to
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Cut defense spending, and kick people out so we can spend less on personnel!"

Performance and operational capabilities be damned.




This is my second draw down and thats how it happened both times. But the Army doubles down on the stupid and kicks the wrong people out. Smaller less capable force.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:36 am to
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It isn't the threat it's the deployment cycles.





You frickers only go for 90 days! suck it up!

I get your point though you cant keep deploying the same personnel
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:38 am to
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This is my second draw down and thats how it happened both times. But the Army doubles down on the stupid and kicks the wrong people out. Smaller less capable force.
I saw too many draw downs, pay people to get out, then a few years later give bonuses to stay in.

BTW Army hasn't cornered the market on stupid.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:39 am to
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You frickers only go for 90 days! suck it up!
90 to 180, then 4-6 months later do it again, over and over and over.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11345 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:41 am to
Some of that blame belongs on lawmakers as well as AF command
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
8710 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:42 am to
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90-180 days 2:1 dwell time. My last three years I average over 200 day per year gone.

Please forgive my ignorance but what does this mean?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:44 am to
Dwell time means for everyday I am deployed I should be able to realistically expect 2 days at home station. It was at one point 4:1

My last three years I averaged about 200 days away from home station.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 11:46 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:45 am to
I get it man.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:46 am to
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Air Force needs people
I get it man
I knew you did!
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:48 am to
Everywhere y'all go you have wifi and gormet coffee shops


If it's tough on the family then get out or don't have a family.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 11:56 am
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