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Again I ask...is Jong Un suicidal?

Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10185 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:44 pm
I made this point last week regarding Putin, which is Jong Un, like Putin, has more to lose on a personal level by poking and prodding the greatest military force the world has ever seen.

Will he and Putin posture and stick out their chests, absolutely. Will they actually cross the line and do something to provoke a first strike or counterstrike by the US, NOT A CHANCE.

People forget that these two essentially run their countries like their personal piggy banks. When push comes to shove they like their big houses, planes, cars, jewelry, living in luxury.

Neither is that down with the cause to risk their individual personal wealth.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62368 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:48 pm to
Homicidal, no question. Suicidal, we all can dream....
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:48 pm to
When you kill off your detractors, surround yourself with terrified arse kissers, and drink your own koolaid, this is what happens.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 10:47 pm
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:51 pm to
Although inflated poll numbers...many Russians actually like like old Vlad...

Dprk people either fear or abhor the fat kid
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:55 pm to
Kim Jun Un is one thing; Putin is a mother freaking other.

He isn't prodding. He is smart and he is clever.

While we spend a gazillion dollars on military (a lot which will go to waste or be priced to the moon), Russia is redefining the nuclear first strike potential.

Putin knows his military isn't going to "compete" and he doesn't have the budget to keep up, but he has decided to pour the money into sophistication within Nuclear Weapons.

Read up on the new submarine they have that is giving people nightmares. My worry with Russia is that if Russia feels threatened they are going to incapacitate American communications by nuking important sites across the land and detonating an EMP.

Those who laugh off Putin is a fool.

Kim Jung Un is a fool, Putin is nothing close to suicidal.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 9:08 pm to
I think that he still thinks China will have his back, despite what China says publicly.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Again I ask...is Jong Un suicidal?
Only if he can get a stand in.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

Read up on the new submarine they have that is giving people nightmares.

Is this the one that sounds more like fiction than reality?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23643 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 9:47 pm to
I tried to make this point earlier. We know that Kim has nuclear weapons. He says he will use them if attacked. So anyone who would attack to knowingly provoke the use of nuclear weapons is crazy, right?

The present strategy of having Pence publicly warn North Korea that they should not risk a confrontation with Trump is a variation of the Reagan strategy with Russia. Back then we convinced Russia that Reagan was crazy enough to attack even knowing that it could bring about the end of the world. Russia backed down because Russia was rational and really didn't want Armageddon, it just wanted respect and to not be pushed around.

With Kim, the tables are a bit turned. If anyone in the game is truly crazy, it is the little dictator in North Korea. Pence will not be able to convince North Korea that Trump is crazier than Kim, so they better back down.

I think Kim might actually choose suicide over backing down. He may actually be nuts.
Posted by BIWO
Member since Dec 2015
1821 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 9:57 pm to
Kim is not suicidal, he's just crazy. He knows he will be killed within 24 hours if his regime gets taken over. Which is why he has the use the threat of nuclear force. It buys him time on this earth. The scary part is, is that he crazy and might actually try to start a nuclear war. He knows he is going to die regardless.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:43 pm to
Maybe the most informed person on Earth when it comes to the US-NK standoff.......



Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5830 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:57 pm to
He has some kind of health problems that is for sure. This could make him unpredictable. He is a heavy smoker as well and unlike Putin he is in terrible shape. I don't think he lives long and this may make NK even more unstable.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 10:58 pm
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:03 pm to
Two words come to mind of recent: Saddam Hussein
He had the world at his feet, and he just had to piss off the Bush Family. I mean he could not learn a lesson from getting kicked out of Kuwait. Just let the damn UN Inspectors snoop unfettered. He knew he had nothing, he dumped it off to his Bath Party buddy in Syria.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

He says he will use them if attacked. So anyone who would attack to knowingly provoke the use of nuclear weapons is crazy, right?


not yet

did you hear about his latest missile test. it blew up 5 seconds after lift off.

he can't deliver pizza.

yet
Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
4672 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:23 pm to
He believes, and rightly so, that nk threat to the population of Seoule protects him from attack. If we are truly moving 2 more carrier battle groups to him. China may have to do something, because their economy would tank with the quickness if this thing turned shooting ugly. Ours seems to thrive during and just after a bigly war, funny how that works.
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:29 pm to
I truly hope that Trump is working his "Art of the Deal" with the Chinese. Wake up one morning and China has cut that turd down and he is done with. What a coup that would be for Trump. (pun intended).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421306 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

Kim is not suicidal, he's just crazy. He knows he will be killed within 24 hours if his regime gets taken over. Which is why he has the use the threat of nuclear force. It buys him time on this earth. The scary part is, is that he crazy and might actually try to start a nuclear war. He knows he is going to die regardless.

continuing these stupid missile tests is stupid and borderline suicidal

China is even getting tired of his shite
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:43 pm to
His ego is breaking down on an international stage.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:21 am to
I actually feel sorry for the people of NK that had the great misfortune to be born there.

If Lil' Kim were to give up his Nuclear Program and step down,aid would flow in and the people could eat their fill for the 1st time in their life.

But he's not hungry.He's fat in a Nation of starving people.

The crazy Bastard thinks the way to respect is through saber rattling.All the while his Country becomes more isolated,poorer,and hungrier.

I can't believe someone hasn't "suicided" him.
Posted by say when
Member since Mar 2015
1613 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:26 am to
You mean like throwing himself in front of a MOAB?

I think so.
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