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Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52734 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:02 pm to
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Aetna bails on ACA exchanges...


Here comes bamaatl to knight for this dumpster fire.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111489 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:02 pm to
We can tell the ACA is awesome by how shitty it performs.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54201 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:06 pm to
When will those that oppose the Rep plan realize that their plan is better than no plan at all if Obocare is not corrected? I'd say they are the definition of someone exhibiting tunnel vision.

Obocare is a death wish for American economics thru healthcare.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259604 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:08 pm to
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Here comes bamaatl to knight for this dumpster fire.


He'll claim it's proof that the ACA is working perfectly
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19492 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:10 pm to
BUT THE CHILDREN!!!
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54201 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:10 pm to
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He'll claim it's proof that the ACA is working perfectly


I wonder if he texts on TDs while driving poor black people to get a photo ID so they can vote - legally?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62355 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:11 pm to
He'll claim it's proof that the ACA is working perfectly

Well, if he's a leftist, it is working perfectly. It was designed to slowly bankrupt everyone involved, esp. the middle class, so much so that they would welcome single payer...
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:22 pm to
What a great opportunity for the GOP to highlight the inadequacies of the ACA....oops.... shithead is sucking all the oxygen out of the room again.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5825 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:25 pm to
I had AETNA 2 years ago and it sucked. We have Cigna now and it is much better.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:25 pm to
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Here comes bamaatl to knight for this dumpster fire.


I still don't think many of you get it, the AHCA uses the framework of the ACA.

These problems are not going away. If anything they would get worse under this restructuring.

You are incentivizing the young and healthy to gamble with such a weak mandate, you aren't addressing actual costs, and you are cutting subsidies and pushing people on Medicaid into that ACA pool. On the personal level you are making healthcare unaffordable for older people.

The high risk pools are woefully underfunded and the reinsurance money far too inadequete. The repealing of the employer mandate could reduce the strength of a lot of risk pools as well and push people into that individual market or similarly gamble with no insurance.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:28 pm to
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When will those that oppose the Rep plan realize that their plan is better than no plan at all if Obocare is not corrected? I'd say they are the definition of someone exhibiting tunnel vision.

Obocare is a death wish for American economics thru healthcare.


This is exactly why the Republicans shouldn't have rushed that bullshite bill. They should have let Obamacare run its course to shittiness, and gotten rid of it straight. Instead, they push a bill in supposedly multiple parts(don't believe it) that IS a watered down version of the dying program with some goodies sprinkled in.

The republicans are fricking stupid, and Trump joined the stupidity by pushing it too.

They should have waited for the clamor to fix it, and passed Rand's plan for the Senate to then modify/compromise/adjust. Now we have an already liberal bill that will just get worse with the Senate.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18048 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:37 pm to
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These problems are not going away.


"What problems?" - BamaATL
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:38 pm to
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I still don't think many of you get it, the AHCA uses the framework of the ACA.


Upvote

quote:

These problems are not going away. If anything they would get worse under this restructuring.


Still up voting.




quote:

You are incentivizing the young and healthy to gamble with such a weak mandate, you aren't addressing actual costs, and you are cutting subsidies and pushing people on Medicaid into that ACA pool. On the personal level you are making healthcare unaffordable for older people.

The high risk pools are woefully underfunded and the reinsurance money far too inadequete. The repealing of the employer mandate could reduce the strength of a lot of risk pools as well and push people into that individual market or similarly gamble with no insurance.


Downvote.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111489 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:53 pm to
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sucked. We have Cigna now and it is much better.


Lol
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6928 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:07 pm to
Another step towards a public option that Aetna will bid on.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34913 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

You are incentivizing the young and healthy to gamble with such a weak mandate


No, forcing unnecessary shite on the young and healthy is pushing us to gamble by going uninsured.

Sorry, but for a young healthy person who goes to the doctor for a checkup once a year and has zero health issues, their health insurance shouldn't be their number 2 line item a month.

Why would we pay 150+ a month when we're healthy? It has absolutely crippled the purchasing power and wealth accumulation of the young and healthy.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56199 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:59 pm to
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Why would we pay 150+ a month when we're healthy?
I know scores of people who would suck a dick to pay $150/month.

And the "gamble" still has a cost. The mandate wouldn't really be gone. It's just a different penalty which is now enforced by the insurers themselves and not the government, which is a really disturbing change.

The new law sucks, shouldn't pass and people should hold lawmakers' feet to the fire until they come up with a system that actually helps people instead of serving their masters.

To me, it's an insultingly clear indication that ALL of them want single payer, and this is just another avenue to that end.

The people hate the existing law, and conservative citizens won't accept single payer, so this crap is what we're getting instead. The owners of this country will be able to slap single payer on us while simultaneously handing the government back to the leftists.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 7:04 pm to
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Another step towards a public option that Aetna will bid on.



another step toward Venezuela
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51788 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:29 pm to
Has ATL dropped by to tell us how racist Aetna is?
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