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ACA Can't Survive and "You didn't fix our disaster!" Isn't a Winning Platform

Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:26 pm
Y'all need to pull it together. All this melting is sad. The Ryan bill was garbage and needed to die. Better nothing get passed now than that.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:27 pm to
The only ones melting are gope cucks.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:27 pm to
Agreed, but neither is bitching for the last 7 years, having control congress and Presidency and shitting the bed.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:28 pm to
The HFC just kept the GOP from hanging itself.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:28 pm to
I'm finding myself applauding Tiguar more and more often. Like a true American
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84607 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:29 pm to
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ACA Can't Survive and "You didn't fix our disaster!" Isn't a Winning Platform


When you have a majority and the president on your side of the aisle, anything you fail to get done implies support for the status quo.

As long as Obamacare is the law of the land and the administration and congress do nothing to stop it, it is their disaster too.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Agreed, but neither is bitching for the last 7 years, having control congress and Presidency and shitting the bed.


Let this be the death of the Rinos!
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:30 pm to
Better than the AHCA which would be SOLELY their disaster.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29283 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:30 pm to
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Better nothing get passed now than that.


I want to repeal ACA then we can do nothing and evaluate later.

That is what should have happened if nothing else.....or we could have dug deeper into Rand Paul's plan.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84607 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:30 pm to
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The HFC just kept the GOP from hanging itself.


By keeping Obamacare in force for the foreseeable future?

Think about how dumb that sounds.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29283 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:31 pm to
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Let this be the death of the Rinos!


This won't be just the RINO's burden.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:32 pm to
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Obamacare


Will implode if left alone. Then where do we go? The ones laughing at Trump's failure on this might not be laughing a couple of years down the road. We'll see.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:33 pm to
What would the AHCA actually fixed from Obamacare?

You keep pre-existing condition coverage but get rid of the thing designed to slow the death spiral.

What happens next? The death spiral is still there and maybe just comes faster.

You can't have a stable system of insurance that covers pst events.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Y'all need to pull it together. All this melting is sad. The Ryan bill was garbage and needed to die. Better nothing get passed now than that.



This.

Can the Dems really run on "they didn't fix our mess, so put us back in charge? "
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29283 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:34 pm to
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Can the Dems really run on "they didn't fix our mess, so put us back in charge? "


After today yes.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:35 pm to
2018 is a ways out, it's too early to tell what the impact will be.

But the GOP has to do tax reform not to get skull fricked in 2018
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4390 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:37 pm to
Dems have been trying to make changes to Obamacare for years but they didn't have the votes. They will run on the platform of "vote for us and we will fix Obamacare." What will Republicans run on? "Vote for us and we will fail and give up after three months"?

The changes Dems want may or may not be good but they can look at voters in the eyes and say that when given power they will actually do something.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84607 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:38 pm to
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What would the AHCA actually fixed from Obamacare?


Nothing, which is the point.


Going forward, every day that Obamacare is the law of the land is due to inaction from Republicans/Trump. That is the part that pisses me off to no end.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1590 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:39 pm to
At least they are trying to do this through the legislative process. The Dems violated the Constitution by starting it in the Senate and using reconciliation to ram the thing thru at the midnight hour.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25057 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:39 pm to
They should just repeal it to what was in place before the ACA, then work on the replacement as a separate piece of legislation. That makes too much sense, though, and cucks want the bullshite pre-existing conditions shite.
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