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About this North Korean bottle rocket the other day
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:33 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:33 am
Something doesn't compute with this
I did some research and learned that "space" happens only 62 miles above the surface of the earth. So, a missile goes to a height of over 1,100 miles into space yet only 500 miles downrange - all of that in 30 minutes?? Why put a missile 1,200 miles up if it only goes 500 miles? Can NK even accomplish something like that?
If there's a Mr. Peabody on here I'd appreciate your input.
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Japanese officials said the missile flew for about 30 minutes, traveling about 500 miles and reaching an unusually high altitude of 1,240 miles. The South Korean military said the missile traveled about 430 miles.
I did some research and learned that "space" happens only 62 miles above the surface of the earth. So, a missile goes to a height of over 1,100 miles into space yet only 500 miles downrange - all of that in 30 minutes?? Why put a missile 1,200 miles up if it only goes 500 miles? Can NK even accomplish something like that?
If there's a Mr. Peabody on here I'd appreciate your input.
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:38 am to Homesick Tiger
The Norks have no idea what they are doing. 
At least this one didn't blow up.
At least this one didn't blow up.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 6:40 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:39 am to Homesick Tiger
Not sure but I want the fat boy taken out.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:41 am to Homesick Tiger
It was obviously anot error in the article...
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:44 am to stelly1025
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It was obviously anot error in the article...
It was scrolled on FOX all day yesterday and in every article I've read concerning the launch. If it were a print error you'd think someone besides dumb ole me would have picked up on it by now.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:45 am to Homesick Tiger
It's probably the most successful test they've conducted.
They can get away with shooting Rockets up.It's out that's going to get the Rocket shot down or a retaliatory strike.
They can get away with shooting Rockets up.It's out that's going to get the Rocket shot down or a retaliatory strike.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:52 am to Homesick Tiger
It was a useful test and good politics.
More energy to go up 1,000 than to reach 2,000.
If they had just reached 2,000 miles with big enough to carry nuke, hysteria and public outcry.
Its a big deal
More energy to go up 1,000 than to reach 2,000.
If they had just reached 2,000 miles with big enough to carry nuke, hysteria and public outcry.
Its a big deal
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:52 am to tidalmouse
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They can get away with shooting Rockets up
But a 2,400 mile round trip into space from launch to splash down in 30 minutes?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:14 am to Homesick Tiger
You have no idea what you're talking about but refer to it as a bottle rocket?
This is a pretty big advance for the norks. Inching closer to the capability of delivering a warhead to the continental us.
This is a pretty big advance for the norks. Inching closer to the capability of delivering a warhead to the continental us.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:14 am to Homesick Tiger
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But a 2,400 mile round trip into space from launch to splash down in 30 minutes?
It wouldn't surprise me. Rockets are fast, and then a rocket that size is going to have a very high terminal velocity coming back to Earf, and that is assuming it fizzled at apogee and wasn't powered on the way down. I play a frickton of Kerbal; it checks out.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:16 am to tidalmouse
quote:
It's probably the most successful test they've conducted.
They can get away with shooting Rockets up.It's out that's going to get the Rocket shot down or a retaliatory strike.
My thoughts. They will keep pushing further until someone does something about it.
That someone needs to be China
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:16 am to UHTiger
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You have no idea what you're talking about but refer to it as a bottle rocket?
You way too serious bro. Chill.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:37 am to Homesick Tiger
At that altitude they can take out satellites. That's why it is a big deal.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:40 am to ironsides
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At that altitude they can take out satellites.
Could be. I did some more research, heaven forbid of looking up facts, and found out most satellites are in orbital paths anywhere from 200-1,200 miles up so you might be on to something.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:50 am to Homesick Tiger
I think this launch is probably being seen as very successful. They know they can't shoot outward or they will enter Chinese, Russian, or Japanese territory and risk a true response. This makes me believe the theory more that the previous launch, that was deemed a failure, was actually self detonated to avoid crossing into Russian air space. The launch angle was noted as being much different, about half the angle they normally launch, if my memory serves me.
Pyongyang to Tokyo - 699 miles
I've seen two "expert" calculations based on the standard launch trajectory which calculate a distance of 2,500 miles and 3,700 miles. Putting Tokyo well within their reach assuming they can be that accurate and the launch is a success. Two big assumptions for the North Koreans, but it's becoming more and more believable.
Here's the link to the article with the "expert" calculations
Yahoo/Reuters
Pyongyang to Tokyo - 699 miles
I've seen two "expert" calculations based on the standard launch trajectory which calculate a distance of 2,500 miles and 3,700 miles. Putting Tokyo well within their reach assuming they can be that accurate and the launch is a success. Two big assumptions for the North Koreans, but it's becoming more and more believable.
Here's the link to the article with the "expert" calculations
Yahoo/Reuters
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:54 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:Ballistic missiles follow a ballistic trajectory path which takes them above the atmosphere, but that May be a typo. Our ICBMs top out at little over half that altitude. Reports say it was tested at a "steep angle" fwiw.
I did some research and learned that "space" happens only 62 miles above the surface of the earth. So, a missile goes to a height of over 1,100 miles into space yet only 500 miles downrange - all of that in 30 minutes?? Why put a missile 1,200 miles up if it only goes 500 miles? Can NK even accomplish something like that?
If there's a Mr. Peabody on here I'd appreciate your input.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 9:00 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:01 am to Homesick Tiger
It's probably supposed to be in kilometers, which would still translate up to 770 miles high.
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