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A look at the Success and Failures of Trump's presidency so far.

Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:21 am
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:21 am
I was entirely too bored last night and decided to gather as much wins/losses/stalemates as I could find concerning the Trump Administration so far.

I am open to amending any of these entries so long as they are fact based and not covered by one of the existing entries.

I tried to remain relatively neutral although I will admit that I am a supporter of the administration so biases should be considered.

I hope that my entries have been fair.

Wins:

Travel Ban – This was a struggle, but was ultimately vinidicated by the SCOTUS.
Supreme Court Appointment of Neil Gorsuch
Executive Order on Reducing Regulation and Controlling Regulatory Costs
Executive Order on Minimizing the Economic Burden of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Military Readiness – Trump has passed increased spending and reduced burdens placed on it by previous administrations.
Border Security – Trump’s administration has increased ICE arrests by 40%.
Reduction in Illegal immigration – Due to increased ICE presence/funding and strong rhetoric, illegal immigration is down ~60% in 2017.
Surging markets – The markets have broken several records since Trump has taken office. While not necessarily all Trump’s doing, this is a victory considering how Democrats expected the markets to react to a Trump presidency.
Jobs – Millions of new jobs have been added since Trump has taken office. This has exceeded expectations by most experts. While there has been a slight increase in the unemployment rates, most experts believe this is due to more people actively looking for work.
Increased GDP – While so far predictions have failed to reach the elusive 4 percent that Trump said during the campaign, the GDP is predicted to close out at 2.2 percent this year. I consider this a win as this is a positive over previous years and a trend in the right direction.
ISIS Shrinking Influence – ISIS control in Iraq has diminished immensely since Trump has taken office. While Trump doesn’t deserve all of the credit, his sharp rhetoric and the military actions taken have earned him a victory here.
TPP – Trump’s exit of the TPP agreement was a sharp win for our markets in the U.S.
Paris Agreement – This will be a controversial one, but Trump’s exit of the Paris Agreement was a victory for the administration as it saved us from unnecessary foreign expenditure.
Keystone XL Pipeline – Trump’s approval of the pipeline has increased jobs and reduced reliance on foreign oil.

Stalemates:


North Korea – Trump’s rhetoric has failed to rein in either China or NK and has so far resulted in a stalemate.
The Wall – Trump has met fierce resistence from both parties concerning the funding needed for the wall. While he has secured some funding, he has so far failed to deliver a plan to have Mexico pay for it. This is a stalemate due to the time he still has left to accomplish it.
Taxes – Trump and a Republican Congress have yet to propose any changes to our tax code.
1 Trillion Infrastructure spending – Trump and a Republican Congress have yet to propose any infrastructure spending that approaches the 1 trillion promised by Trump during the campaign.
Leaking – Trump has so far failed to contain the leaking of information pertaining both to the inner workings of his administration and national security.
Drain the Swamp – So far Trump has not done much swamp draining. A large portion of his political appointments have been what most consider “Cronies” from Goldman Sachs and washington insiders. On top of that, he has so far failed to deliver on strong campaign rhetoric to investigate Hillary. Although this may be changing.
Stance on the Drug War – Trump’s appointment of Jeff Sessions as AG has increased rhetoric surrounding the issue of the War on Drugs at a time when most voters are weary of this topic and advocating for reduced spending/punishment surrounding drug use. No actionable rule changes have been implemented yet, so we're in a stalemate.

Failures:


Healthcare – Congressional disagreement and Trump’s failure to negotiate said agreement have resulted in a failure to repeal/replace Obamacare. As promised I have moved this to failure due to Congress moving on to taxes: LINK
Iran Nuclear Deal – Failed because of how much he criticized it during the campaign and his current insistence to keep it active.
White House Chaos – The appearance, whether true or not, of chaos surrounding his administration is a sharp loss considering his rhetoric of disciplined leadership during the campaign.
Russia Investigation – Whether warranted or not, the actions taken by Trump and the subsequent appointment of special counsel to investigate the Trump Administration for collusion with the Russian government is a stain on the administration.
Trump’s Rhetoric – While Trump has done some good things with his rhetoric, by and large it has gotten him into a lot of trouble and controversy. It lead to the russia investigation and has spurned a lot of unneccesary criticism of his administration. Supporters like to think there is some 3d chess here, but until proven, this is a failure.
Civil Asset Forfeiture – Trump’s appointment of Jeff Sessions as AG has seen the practice of CAF approved as a valid law enforcement measure.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 8:38 am
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:27 am to
Nice list, I would probably change a couple things around but all in all pretty good. Can't overstate how huge the Neil Gorsuch win is.

I feel like the last two months he has let himself/his office be distracted by Russia and the media. I think this might be where Gen. Kelly comes up huge. Cut out the distractions and let the president got back to his blistering pace he was on in the first 3 months.
Posted by austintigerdad
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:33 am to
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Markets
Jobs
GDP

These are lagging indicators. Check back in a year, if Cheeto Jesus is still IMPOTUS.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:34 am to
quote:

These are lagging indicators. Check back in a year, if Cheeto Jesus is still IMPOTUS.


Whether what you say is true or not. They are still a positive for the Trump administration.

You would be crying to high heaven about them if they were bad.
Posted by Yak
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:40 am to
I'd put healthcare, draining the swap, and leaking in the failures category
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:41 am to
quote:

I'd put healthcare, draining the swap, and leaking in the failures category


Why? These are still things that can be worked on? He hasn't failed on them yet.
Posted by TaderSalad
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:43 am to
quote:

These are lagging indicators. Check back in a year, if Cheeto Jesus is still IMPOTUS.



Yep, I agree. But Obama used the lagging excuse for 8 years. So Trump gets at least 8 years... amirite.
Posted by Yak
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:44 am to
Healthcare is a failure, and will not be fixed. He is on the record saying as much.

Draining the swamp by adding Goldman Sachs employees and MLM purveyors isn't, well, draining the swamp.

Leaking happens on a daily basis.
Posted by FCP
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:44 am to
Gorsuch. Nothing else matters.
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:46 am to
Everything can still be worked on lol, I know he promised alot but frick at least he's tried which is more than most Washington politurds can say. This country is run by a democracy not a dictatorship he has to win approval in a house and Senate where half his own party are part Democrat hiding behind the Republican red badge. It's only been 6 months
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Healthcare is a failure, and will not be fixed. He is on the record saying as much.


They are still working on it. If they drop it, i'll move it to failure.

quote:

Draining the swamp by adding Goldman Sachs employees and MLM purveyors isn't, well, draining the swamp.


Draining the Swamp can be accomplished on many fronts and failed on some, yet still remain a stalemate. Investigation of Lynch, Comey, and Hillary would be a good start. This is looking more and more likely as the days go by.

quote:

Leaking happens on a daily basis.


Again, Leaking can be fixed, it's not a failure unless he failed to fix it during his tenure.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:49 am to
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Everything can still be worked on lol


While you are correct, I'm considering what is actually being done and if things are actively being looked at.

If they go dormant, I'll consider them failures.

Healthcare, Swamp, and Leaks are all actively being evaluated in some fashion.
Posted by Yak
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:49 am to
quote:

They are still working on it. If they drop it, i'll move it to failure.
Your OP states "so far." So far, it's a failure.
quote:

Draining the Swamp can be accomplished on many fronts and failed on some, yet still remain a stalemate. Investigation of Lynch, Comey, and Hillary would be a good start. This is looking more and more likely as the days go by
Your OP states "so far." So far, it's a failure.
quote:

Again, Leaking can be fixed, it's not a failure unless he failed to fix it during his tenure
Your OP states "so far." So far, it's a failure.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Your OP states "so far." So far, it's a failure.


See my post above yours.
Posted by tarzana
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:52 am to
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healthcare

That's an epic fail. I just want him to leave my healthcare alone.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:52 am to
Gorsuch is not a win.
Its the logical result of ownimg congress and white house.
Posted by Yak
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:53 am to
Fair enough. Perhaps you should add "in my opinion" to your OP then.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Fair enough. Perhaps you should add "in my opinion" to your OP then.


This is a political message board and I'm not an authority on anything pertaining to this subject... It should be pretty obvious that this is opinion. (and biased opinion at that, since I clarified my position in the OP)
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Gorsuch is not a win. Its the logical result of ownimg congress and white house.


This is absolutely a win.

Trump could have royally fricked up the selection. All indications so far have pointed to Gorsuch being the second coming of Scalia.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:56 am to
your a tad kind to trump. I think a big failure is he hasn't really done anything he said he would on the legislative front.

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