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14 million people would lose coverage next year under GOP health care plan
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:41 pm
According to a non-partisan report
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The Congressional Budget Office’s report on the American Health Care Act estimates that 14 million people would be without health insurance in 2018 versus under the plan, while 24 million people would be uninsured in 2026 than under the current plan.
The 28-page report released Monday afternoon was bad news for Republicans who had been preemptively attacking the office in anticipation of a scoring critical of their proposed Obamacare replacement plan. The report also said that while the AHCA would substantially decrease premiums for younger policy holders, it would substantially raise them for older Americans.
[ More: Five key numbers from the Obamacare repeal bill’s CBO analysis ]
“This report confirms that the American Health Care Act will lower premiums and improve access to quality, affordable care,” said House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis. in a statement. “CBO also finds that this legislation will provide massive tax relief, dramatically reduce the deficit, and make the most fundamental entitlement reform in more than a generation.”
The CBO was created in 1974 with the mission to be a nonpartisan analyst of proposed legislation, providing independent reports on the potential economic impact of new bills. The current CBO director is Keith Hall, who was appointed in 2015. Hall served on President George W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisors, and saw his selection rankle some Democrats due to a 2013 op-ed in which he criticized Obamacare and proposals to raise the minimum wage. The CBO has strict rules to limit financial conflicts of interest and political activities by its employees.
Generally, a bill receives its CBO scoring before members vote, but Republicans in the House have already pushed the AHCA past some legislative hurdles before the report is available.
“I don’t think the House should have proceeded without a CBO estimate,” said Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., on Sunday. “At the same time, the director of the CBO is not Moses. He doesn’t come down from the mountaintops with stone tablets. They’re human like the rest of us. They can make mistakes. But they do provide an important amount of information and analysis that allows senators and congressmen to make informed choices.”
The report echoes the Brookings Institute’s findings last week, likely making the bill a tougher sell to constituents and lawmakers who are on the fence. Brookings, a liberal-leaning think tank, projected that at least 15 million people would lose coverage if the AHCA were passed. This is in stark contrast to President Trump’s campaign promises.
“I am going to take care of everybody,” said Trump in a September 2015 interview with “60 Minutes.” “I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”
Last week White House press secretary Sean Spicer previewed the messaging that Republican supporters of the bill would turn to in anticipation of an unflattering report: “If you’re looking at the CBO for accuracy, you’re looking in the wrong place.”
Ryan, appearing on “Face the Nation” Sunday, preemptively dismissed the CBO’s conclusions.
“The one thing I’m certain will happen is CBO will say, well, gosh, not as many people will get coverage,” said Ryan. “You know why? Because this isn’t a government mandate. This is not the government makes you buy what we say you should buy, and therefore the government thinks you’re all going to buy it. So there’s no way we can — you can compete with on paper a government mandate with coverage.”
When pressed on how many people would lose coverage, Ryan said, “I can’t answer that question. It’s up to people.”
The White House budget director Mick Mulvaney was also making rounds of the Sunday shows, attacking the CBO on ABC News.
“If the CBO was right about Obamacare to begin with,” said Mulvaney, “there would be eight million more people on Obamacare today than there actually are. So I love the folks at the CBO — they work really hard, they do, but sometimes we ask them to do stuff they’re not capable of doing, and estimating the impact of a bill of this size probably isn’t the best use of their time.”
The CBO projections for coverage under the Affordable Care Act were inaccurate, partly because 19 states opted out of expanded Medicaid — which could not have been predicted at the time — and partly because the agency predicted that more employers would drop their own health insurance plans than actually did.
While the CBO wasn’t perfect in its Obamacare scoring, it wasn’t too far off the mark. After the Supreme Court ruled that Medicaid expansion was optional for states, the office predicted that 89% of Americans below age 65 would have insurance in 2016. According to data from the Center for Disease Control, the number was actually 89.7.
When asked during Monday’s press briefing whether CBO numbers were legitimate or not, Spicer said, “That’s not my determination to make.”
Douglas Holtz-Eakin, who ran the CBO under President George W. Bush and worked on Mitt Romney’s 2008 campaign, dismissed the criticisms.
“The office is genuinely nonpartisan and seeks to make sure its estimates are grounded in research literature,” Holtz-Eakin told Talking Points Memo. “Both Republicans and Democrats have led the office, and the work is always of the same high quality.”
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:41 pm to Phat Phil
Good. Maybe now they will go back to Mexico
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:42 pm to Phat Phil
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“If the CBO was right about Obamacare to begin with,” said Mulvaney, “there would be eight million more people on Obamacare today than there actually are. So I love the folks at the CBO — they work really hard, they do, but sometimes we ask them to do stuff they’re not capable of doing, and estimating the impact of a bill of this size probably isn’t the best use of their time.”
thats a lot of cheddar
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:42 pm to Phat Phil
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14 million people would lose coverage next year under GOP health care plan
So?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:43 pm to Phat Phil
Sounds like plenty of advance notice.
They better start looking for a solution for themselves.
They better start looking for a solution for themselves.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:45 pm to Phat Phil
Sounds like people need to start thinking about a better diet and exercise.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:45 pm to Phat Phil
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14 million people would lose coverage next year under GOP health care plan
Would or could?
Because when they told us how many would get coverage under Obamacare it turned out to be a could.
quote:
According to a non-partisan report
I honestly wonder if this actually exists today. Could easily be doubling the number that could lose it under trump like they doubled estimates that would receive it under obama.
Experts have been wrong a lot lately, and it's because they keep telling us what they want to happen/want us to believe.
I remember when Hillary was the most qualified canidate ever, I remember when there was no chance trump would win, I remember when the stock market was going to crash if he did, I remember when the jobs were never coming back...
Just like I'll remember when he was a Russian agent and was going to cost everyone their healthcare.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:46 pm to Phat Phil
quote:there is already a thread on this. While 14 million people might lose coverage next year under GOP health care plan (that calculation is highly suspect btw), the loss of coverage would be magnitudes larger if obamacare was allowed to collapse.
14 million people would lose coverage next year under GOP health care plan
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:47 pm to Phat Phil
Not much sadder than a bunch of middle class yokels white knighting for the wealthy.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:49 pm to Phat Phil
I wonder how many people would lose cell phone service, if my taxes didn't pay for that too?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:49 pm to The Spleen
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Not much sadder than a bunch of middle class yokels white knighting for the wealthy.
Wut?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:55 pm to LSU316
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14 million people would lose coverage next year under GOP health care plan
So?
There's more. it will raise costs for the elderly.
even better, right?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:58 pm to Phat Phil
What number of that will be voluntary?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 5:00 pm to Phat Phil
Trump said every one would be covered.
Did he lie, mama, did he?
Did he lie, mama, did he?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 5:01 pm to The Spleen
Such a trite and lazy "argument". Do you think that is clever? If so, that is sad.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 5:29 pm to BBONDS25
Good, Government shouln't provide healthcare either way.it's just a way to keep people dependant on them.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 5:30 pm to Phat Phil
I'll just go ahead and admit that right now, at this moment, I don't care that much.
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