"… as the secretary shall determine…"

Not answering because I don't know.

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Does anybody know the answer, or does nobody care?

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This is what happens when you ask a fact based question -


This is what happens when you ask a question with an opinionated answer -

Subsidies are illegal as ruled by a DC judge. The $7 billion was never appropriated by congress. Trump is just following the law.

Without the $7 billion the costs of Obamacare insurance will rise and people will leave.

The other part of the EO allows for associations to form and purchase interstate health care plans. This is based on existing law however HHS has been directed to facilitate these healthcare associations. This means more people joining these associations to acquire health insurance instead of Obamacare. Options.

Those are the two ways this EO hurts Obamacare.

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So no more CORPORATE welfare...

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I wouldn't say "no more". $7 billion less? Yes.

So, he's basically doing it by re-writing the Federal Regulations?

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So, he's basically doing it by re-writing the Federal Regulations?

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You got it. He deregulated a regulation

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Is this this power trip embedded in Obamacare the leeway that Trump is using(along with a law in the 70s) to be able to use EO to gut Obamacare? It seems that this EO does more to kill Obamacare than the bullshite bills the GOPe was pushing.

Enlighten me. If I'm off base, how does an EO destroy a law? Don't get me wrong, if it's legal then I'm all for it. I just don't want it struck down by courts or used by the R pussies as cover for not repealing Ocare

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Trump is saying they will no longer pay the cost sharing subsidies outlined in the ACA that the law says they will pay.

However, because of the way the law works, where insurers discount the subsidies and then get reimbursed, insurers are still required to abide by the law and adhere to the subsidies, they just won't get reimbursed.

Most insurers were already anticipating Trump doing this, so many already raised their premiums on average 10-20% to account for that expectation. Now Trump has made it official.

The catch in all this is that government is still on the hook for the premium tax credits. So when insurers raise premiums, the tax credits increase as well. If you are someone that gets subsidies on the ACA market you will not feel much different because the subsidies will adjust upward with the new prices. The losers here are the tax payers, whom the CBO says will be on the hook for 194 billion in additional accumulated deficits over the current baseline over the next 8 years.

The other loser is the middle class person in the individual market without tax credits that will feel the full brunt of the premium increases.

Will it collapse the marketplace? Hard to tell, it could lead to a number of insurers seeking to use their exit clauses and leave more counties without an insurer, and poor people with nowhere to use their tax credit. But since a lot of insurers have already anticipated this, it seems many will still stay in and cash in on this lemon socialism arrangement Trump has helped advance, and in the meantime sue the shite out of the government to try and double dip. Sue to get their cost-sharing payments while taking in higher premium tax credits because they are being told they won't get them.

Trump is creating a cluster frick. And an expensive one.

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Subsidies are illegal as ruled by a DC judge. The $7 billion was never appropriated by congress. Trump is just following the law.

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Since Congress did not fund the risk corridor subsidies one wonders what program(s) went un/underfunded by $7B.

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Trump is creating a cluster frick. And an expensive one.

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Like DACA and the Iran Deal, all President Trump is doing is putting the issue before the legislative branch to fix.

Or to not fix and suffer election consequences.

Ca doesnt seem to think its constitutional.
Roberts and Gorsuch will let us know, soon enough.