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Mineral rights question

Posted on 8/4/08 at 7:40 pm
Posted by robttiger
Columbia MS
Member since Sep 2004
367 posts
Posted on 8/4/08 at 7:40 pm
In the 1970's my parents bought some land in La. that has a capped gas well on it. The owner held the mineral rights after they bought it. He and his wife died in the 1990's and it is my understanding the mineral rights then went to my parents. My question is if they were to reopen the capped gas well, would the profits go to my parents or to the deceased man's family?
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 8/4/08 at 9:23 pm to
I've got a similar issue. If the owner signed a mineral lease in the 70's your parents may not have any rights.

Please keep us posted on this.
Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4340 posts
Posted on 8/4/08 at 10:42 pm to
you might want to do a deed or property title search at your parish clerk of courts. i think it's got to specifically mention minerals.

from my understanding mineral rights can only be held/reserved for 10 yrs. in La. (date of sale, or last mineral production) by the seller of the surface rights. if there is no mineral activity in that time-period, the mineral rights transfer to the buyer.

i would think your parents would be entitled to the mineral rights, since the seller of the surface rights is deceased, it's been 10 yrs., and as long as there has been no mineral activity in the interim. but, that's just a guess.


Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 8/5/08 at 8:57 am to
Pretty close Smoke Green.

The minerals rights can be held be the seller as long as they are being "developed". You only have 10 years of non-use. What that means is that if the property was deeded in 1970 with a mineral reservation and production was established then the mineral rights would stay with the seller until 10 years after that gas well is capped. So if the gas well was capped before August of 1998 then the mineral rights are your parents. If the well was capped after August of 1998 then your parents would own the minerals 10 years after the date the well was capped.
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 8/5/08 at 9:06 am to
quote:

He and his wife died in the 1990's and it is my understanding the mineral rights then went to my parents.


I didn't hit on this point. It doesn't matter if the seller dies. If the minerals were owned by them at that time then they would go to their heirs. The 10 year non-use would not start again but be taken over by the heirs.

quote:

My question is if they were to reopen the capped gas well, would the profits go to my parents or to the deceased man's family?


They question becomes when this well was capped.
Give me the section-township-range and I can tell you my opinion.
Posted by REalist
BR
Member since Feb 2004
1089 posts
Posted on 8/5/08 at 9:42 am to
Double Deuce --

Hasn't testing of a capped well been found to be a use sufficient to interrupt the "non-use" prescriptive period?

This post was edited on 8/5/08 at 9:43 am
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20217 posts
Posted on 8/5/08 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Hasn't testing of a capped well been found to be a use sufficient to interrupt the "non-use" prescriptive period?


The production test will start the 10 year period anew - capping the well doesn't. If during that 10 years some more work is done downhole in the well, the 10 year period may start again.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29268 posts
Posted on 8/5/08 at 11:09 am to
I think there is going to be a lot of litigation in the area (mineral rights) over the next few years. I expect most of these questions will be definitively answered.
Posted by REalist
BR
Member since Feb 2004
1089 posts
Posted on 8/5/08 at 4:09 pm to


quote:

Hasn't testing of a capped well been found to be a use sufficient to interrupt the "non-use" prescriptive period?


quote:

The production test will start the 10 year period anew - capping the well doesn't. If during that 10 years some more work is done downhole in the well, the 10 year period may start again.


So, the answer is yes.
Posted by bendellee
Member since Aug 2006
2428 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:16 am to
quote:

The production test will start the 10 year period anew
Mineral Code art. 34.
quote:

prescription is interrupted on the date production is obtained by such testing


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