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Obama Raising Money From Iran, Saudi, China per Maureen Dowd

Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:06 pm
Posted by Big Bengal
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:06 pm
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: June 29, 2008


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OBAMAS TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING

Certainly the most interesting and potentially devastating phone call I have received during this election cycle came this week from one of the Obamas campaign internet geeks. These are the staffers who devised Obamas internet fund raising campaign which raised in the neighborhood of $200 million so far. That is more then twice the total funds raised by any candidate in history and this was all from the internet campaign.

What I learned from this insider was shocking but I guess we shouldn't be surprised that when it comes to fund raising there simply are no rules that can't be broken and no ethics that prevail.

Obama's internet campaign started out innocently enough with basic e-mail networking , lists saved from previous party campaigns and from supporters who visited any of the Obama campaign web sites.
Small contributions came in from these sources and the internet campaign staff were more than pleased by the results.

Then, about two months into the campaign the daily contribution intake multiplied. Where was it coming from? One of the web site security monitors began to notice the bulk of the contributions were clearly coming in from overseas internet service providers and at the rate and frequency of transmission it was clear these donations were programmed by a very sophisticated user.

While the security people were not able to track most of the sources due to firewalls and other blocking devices put on these contributions they were able to collate the number of contributions that were coming in seemingly from individuals but the funds were from only a few credit card accounts and bank electronic funds transfers. The internet service providers (ISP) they were able to trace were from Saudi Arabia , Iran , and other Middle Eastern countries. One of the banks used for fund transfers was also located in Saudi Arabia .

Another concentrated group of donations was traced to a Chinese ISP with a similar pattern of limited credit card charges.

It became clear that these donations were very likely coming from sources other than American voters. This was discussed at length within the campaign and the decision was made that none of these donations violated campaign financing laws.

It was also decided that it was not the responsibility of the campaign to audit these millions of contributions as to the actual source (specific credit card number or bank transfer account numbers) to insure that none of these internet contributors exceeded the legal maximum donation on a cumulative basis of many small donations. They also found the record keeping was not complete enough to do it anyway.

This is a shocking revelation.

We have been concerned about the legality of bundling contributions after the recent exposure of illegal bundlers but now it appears we may have an even greater problem.

I guess we should have been somewhat suspicious when the numbers started to come out. We were told (no proof offered) that the Obama internet contributions were from $10.00 to $25.00 or so.

If the $200,000,000 is right, and the average contribution was $15.00, that would mean over 13 million individuals made contributions? That would also be 13 million contributions would need to be processed. How did all that happen?

I believe the Obama campaign's internet fund raising needs a serious, in depth investigation and audit. It also appears the whole question of internet fund raising needs investigation by the legislature and perhaps new laws to insure it complies not only with the letter of these laws but the spirit as well






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Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:08 pm to
Wow..... No doubt the mainstream media will give him a pass on this.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53814 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:09 pm to
He is a sorry arse muslim, what do you expect him to do. I can't believe the people in this country would vote for this piece of shite.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:25 pm to
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Obama Raising Money From Iran, Saudi, China per Maureen Dowd
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: June 29, 2008


I would like to see you link to this article. Maureen Dowd is a liberal NYT columnist and her column for June 29 was:

LINK

This is pretty fricking lame - some of you morons will believe anything that fits your preconceived beliefs. Here is a real article on the primary source of Obama's funding from a conservative columnist:

LINK

Oh, and FWIW, I'm not voting for the socialist. Cheers.
This post was edited on 7/9/08 at 9:29 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:41 pm to
I am actually shocked to see Maureen doing this. It's bad if the worshippers of the dem party are pointing this out.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:43 pm to
It's fake - I'll go out on a limb and guarantee it. This is like Limbaugh publishing an article that W is a gay communist. Plus the article you link to has a FW:
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56268 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:45 pm to
Yeah, I too had a real hard time believing this. Mayb he didn't pay her off.

Or possibly, it's a hoax.


ETA: And it is
This post was edited on 7/9/08 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Amber Beer
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2008
489 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:45 pm to
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Bogus Dowd column spreads quickly

By Bill Adair, Angie Drobnic Holan
Published on Tuesday, July 8th, 2008 at 06:01 p.m.

SUMMARY: Blogs and chain e-mails are spreading a Maureen Dowd column that claims the Obama campaign got suspicious contributions from Iran, Saudi Arabia and China. But the column is a fake.

At first glance, the chain e-mail looks like an authentic column by Maureen Dowd, the Pulitzer-winning New York Times columnist. It has her byline and a headline that says "OBAMA'S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING." Some versions even have Dowd's picture.

But the column is a fake, the latest weapon in the growing arsenal of chain e-mailers who are spreading false information about the presidential candidates.

The column, which is dated June 29, 2008, says Dowd got a call from "one of the Obama's campaign [sic] internet geeks" who told her the campaign has received a flood of small contributions from overseas. The contributors were difficult to trace, the column says, but they came from a small number of banks and credit cards in various countries, particularly from "Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other Middle Eastern countries."

The column says that "another concentrated group of donations was traced to a Chinese ISP (Internet provider) with a similar pattern of limited credit card charges."

The column says campaign officials were aware "these donations were very likely coming from sources other than American voters," but they concluded it was legal to accept them. Federal law prohibits foreign nationals from contributing to the presidential campaigns, but donations from Americans living overseas are legal and fairly common.

The column calls the decision to accept them "a shocking revelation" and says the Obama campaign should be audited. (You can find the full text of the e-mail here.)

The column is bogus. Dowd told us she did not write it and that "It just seems like anyone who is familiar with my column would know this wasn’t me."

It's not clear who wrote the column. One of the early appearances of the column was when it was posted June 29 on a blog on AZCentral, the Arizona Republic newspaper site, by someone identified as Thomas Moore. In his bio, Moore describes himself as "a retired journalist/technical writer/illustrator" and a fan of Barry Goldwater. His photo on the blog is a computer animation of a man waving a McCain sign, although Moore has no apparent ties to the McCain campaign.

When someone pointed out on his blog that the column was a fake, Moore wrote, "It appears that I may be the fool for posting the editorial, since I don't find it on the NYT Website, either. I'm checking with the friend who sent it to me, as to whether he copied it directly from the Website."

But Moore then mused that it still might be accurate and that the New York Times might have pulled the column from the Web site because the newspaper feared a lawsuit.

Moore could not be reached for comment. A posting on his blog July 5 said he was departing for a long sailing vacation.

"I should return in September," he wrote, "so in my absence please torment the liberals just as if I were here."

How it spread

The quick spread of the bogus column is testament to the lightning-fast nature of politics in the Internet age. On Monday morning, July 7, PolitiFact found it posted on only a few blogs, one of which was on the Obama campaign blog, under the headline "Maureen Dowd spoof spreads." It discredited the column.

But by nightfall Monday, the column was posted on at least eight blogs. By Tuesday morning, that had grown to at least 30 blogs.

As the blog postings multiplied, the column was also being spread widely by chain e-mails. PolitiFact received it from two readers who said it was not authentic and asked us to write about it. At the bottom of both of those e-mails was the same name, someone who had been forwarding the bogus column: Richard Kranker

'I just simply forwarded it'

Reached at his home in Hendersonville, N.C., on Tuesday, Kranker told us he had forwarded the column to 15 or 20 friends.

"Somebody sent it to me and so I just simply forwarded it," he said. "Is it not accurate?"

When we said it was a fake, Kranker said he would e-mail his friends and tell them. A retired government official who worked in the State Department's foreign aid program, Kranker, 77, said he often forwards political messages likes this one to friends.

He said he usually verifies the claims in the e-mails before he forwards them, but did not this time. He believed it was authentic in part because it had Dowd's photo.

"This one sounded so possibly true that I didn’t bother checking it," he said, adding that he must have been lazy that day.

"It wouldn’t surprise me if it were true. I’m conservative and I think that the politicians on both sides will stop at nothing (to raise campaign money) – including closing their eyes," Kranker said. He says he forwards the messages because "I don’t believe that the major media tell the truth. They often skew the truth."

Kranker e-mailed friends who received the bogus column Tuesday evening and told them he had heard it was not true.

Kranker describes himself as a conservative, but he is disenchanted with Republicans. "My understanding of politics is the politicians’ creed which I believe is me first, the party second and the country last. And that’s both sides – the Bush administration and the Republicans have failed us."

He said he is lukewarm about John McCain. "I don’t think I’ll ever forgive him for McCain-Feingold," the Arizona senator's campaign finance reform law. "I may vote for him . . . but he isn’t my ideal candidate."

Still, Kranker said McCain is a better choice than Barack Obama.

"Obama is a socialist – a straight-out socialist. He makes it very clear."

Dowd fans spot a fraud: Column had no movie references

Dowd fans were quick to see the column didn't have the writer's unique voice.

"As far as pastiches go, it makes no effort to imitate Dowd’s style in the least," wrote someone named Mo MoDo on The Dowd Report, a blog that tracks the columnist's work. "There are no silly puns, alliteration, movie references, or odd nicknames. It’s just pure unsubstantiated allegations of campaign fraud."

Mo MoDo wondered why the author chose Dowd.

"What has us at Dowd Central scratching our head is that if you want to plant phony accusations at Obama, why attach Maureen Dowd’s name to it? For a fake veneer of authenticity, it seems to be a puzzling choice. (New York Times columnist Paul) Krugman as the resident Clinton supporter and the far wonkier number cruncher would have been a more plausible target."

Dowd says she hadn't heard of the bogus column until we called her about it. She said she stopped looking herself up on the Internet years ago, after someone showed her a fake photograph of her having sex with Bill Clinton.

She's surprised people believed the column was real. "It’s hard to believe that anybody would give it any credibility as mine. It’s about money – something I know nothing about."

Andrew Rosenthal, editorial page editor of the New York Times, said the paper's editors first heard about it last week. "I’m sure if we knew who was sending it, we would ask them to stop," he said. But he added that, "It’s very hard to counter this kind of thing."


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Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:46 pm to
It didn't seem like her and it isn't.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56268 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:50 pm to
It didn't have her usual juvenile, acerbic remarks.
Posted by Amber Beer
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2008
489 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:51 pm to


quote:

Wow..... No doubt the mainstream media will give him a pass on this.


Easy Way to Look Like an Idiot 101: After reading what you think is a NYT column that trashes Obama for something he did, predict that the "mainstream media will give him a pass" on the behavior.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:52 pm to
Yeah, a liberal columnist criticizing Obama MUST be a hoax.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

Yeah, a liberal columnist criticizing Obama MUST be a hoax.


There have been liberal critiques of Obama.

But Republican hacks beleiving any preposterous lie about Obama...par.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

I am actually shocked to see Maureen doing this.


maybe she had an affair with hillary.
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 7/9/08 at 10:38 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/9/08 at 10:45 pm
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 7/9/08 at 10:42 pm to
what you expect he flip flops on every issue(a shift as the msm would say), he is getting big bucks from foreign sources just like clinton did with the chinese. He is for change myass. He is just like every other slim ball lib.
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