re: Thurs UM-Miles Thread: KEEP ALL DISCUSSION HERE

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(check out his interview in the Detroit Free Press today).

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It's been so long ago that Michigan had to "look around" for a coach, I don't know if they know how these things work. UM has known for a long time that Carr was on his way out and they wait until Tuesday to form a search commitee? You guys might dick this one up. We know a good bit about coaching searches and it is usually not so cut and dry, alot of lies, misinformation, back door deals go down all the time in these searches. But, THE University of Meeechigan would never handle things that way! Frickin' Yankees and their condescending attitudes, .

Maybe there are all kinds of back door dealings, but then all this public stuff makes no sense. If the deal is done, and LSU is screwed anyway, why not just bring Miles to Mich and have it over with.

No the evidence suggests that not having done this in almost 40 years Mich is out of step with what would really be happening and not behaving as anyone would expect.

Goofy Reilly

Sorry, laziness pisses me off like nothing else. Here, have a funny video:

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FWIW, call it distraction, or just "lost championship karma"....but if "fans" are as tied up in this as the people on here show, there is NO WAY it did't have some effect on the team Friday.

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I agree with this. My understanding of human nature, especially of a group of young guys of this age engaged in a collective endeavor is that a lot is based on morale, chemistry, esprit de corpss, call it what you will. And this plays a hughe part in how the team performs.

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Once the ball kicked off? No. They just got beat.

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I respect your opinion. I don't agree with it though. I don't think you can just turn something like that off and on. Look how often a team just "comes out flat" for much lesser reasons than this. Also, I think being distracted in the days leading up to the game can also be important, not just "once the ball is kicked off".

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Also, I think being distracted in the days leading up to the game can also be important, not just "once the ball is kicked off".

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I agree with that, but I'd also argue that the distraction was caused/created much more by rumors in the fanbase and sites like this than the actual coaches. It's not Les's fault everybody was talking about it last week. It seems to me all he did was graduate from and coach at Michigan.

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ETA: it's kind of hypocritical to be pissed at saban for leaving but not miles if he does. saban knew better than to entertain offers in public at the end of the 2003 season ..
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You're kidding right? I thought everybody knew that he had been chatting with Da Bears during December.

Here's what I don't understand. All of these talking heads keep saying how Michigan has all these resources, all this tradition, they can go out and get who they want, bla bla bla.

How long are people going to live in the past? Sure, Michigan is a good football program...but to say that it is a "better" coaching job than LSU in 2007 is just absolute garbage. LSU has sent far more players to the NFL in the last 6 years and is recruiting far better talent than Michigan, period. A lot of that has to do with high school talent and being able to recruit in the south, some of it also has to do with Michigan slowly slipping to mediocrity, and some of it has to do with the fact that more and more people are moving south these days...and yes, that includes the 18 year old kid out of HS that runs a 4.3 40 more and more. Try convincing that kid to come to Michigan, play in the cold, and mingle with fat nasties. Ok, maybe my 3rd point was a little over the top...but still. There is no way that Michigan is a better job than LSU these days, period.

LSU has had 35 players taken on draft day since 2002, more than Michigan by good amount. LSU has been one of the most winning programs in this era of the 6 years and can hang their hat on a BCS national title from 2003. In the last 5 years of competition LSU has a record of 52-13 and in the last 4 years have finished in the top 5 nationally 3 times. Consider this was done with 2 different coaches and you have to know that LSU is recruiting talent these days. What has Michigan done in the last 5 years?

Les Miles has a blistering .846 winning percentage in his first 2 years (not current for this year but i'm sure it would still be close to that). LSU's 2 major bowl wins have come against Oklahoma for the national title from the 2003 season under Saban and a complete undressing of Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl last year 41-14. Seeing Charlie Weiss down to boxers and a T-shirt was about as disturbing as the obvious mismatch in that game between the athletes LSU put on the field and Notre Dame.

What has Michigan done since 02 in bowl games?

Jan. 1, 2002 Citrus Tennessee L 17-45 Lloyd Carr
Jan. 1, 2003 Outback Florida W 38-30 Lloyd Carr
Jan. 1, 2004 Rose Southern California L 14-28
Jan. 1, 2005 Rose Texas L 37-38 Lloyd Carr
Dec. 28, 2005 Alamo Nebraska L 28-32 Lloyd Carr
Jan. 1, 2007 Rose USC L 18-32 Lloyd Carr

But hey, at least they are MEEECHIGAN...and can still get into a new years day bowl on a sorry schedule and name recognition. Well you see the results. 1-5.

I don't get, I just don't get all the talk that Michigan is a better coaching job than LSU. Tradition has been kicked in the arse the last 4 or so years in college football. Nebraska ain't lookin so hot, and there are a lot of smaller teams that have jumped up to compete on the national stage. Parity is at an all time high, and if I'm going to determine who the best school is to coach for in 2007...looking at recent history I'm certianly not going to go with the one that lost to APP state this year at home and was blown out by Oregon at home because they simply CAN NOT compete with the speed of THOSE 2 teams. Ohio State is another example. Zook got some speed at Illinois and it was upset central. Florida vs. Ohio State was a laugher...the speed on Florida's D was overwhelming for the slower big 10 team.

There is no question that LSU is a better football program to coach for these days. This isn't 1970...or even 1992.

My post doesn't have anything to do with Miles decision. He may very well go based on his emotional tie to Michigan. So be it, and you can't blame a man that much for wanting to go coach is almamater.

What I'm referring to is the talking pinheads on the sports talk shows, tv, etc...that most seem to say that Michigan is a better coaching job than LSU because of tradition and the fact that it's "MICHIGAN." That is crap.