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Supreme Court rules that Police can’t extend traffic stop for Dog Sniff
Posted on 4/21/15 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 4/21/15 at 1:59 pm
No more waiting for the drug dog to arrive
Background of the case:
6-3 Ruling:
Another Article
Justice Thomas wrote the 6-3 ruling's dissent:
The case is Rodriguez v. United States, U.S. Supreme Court, No. 13-9972.
Background of the case:
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A police officer pulled over Rodriguez just after midnight on March 27, 2012, after Rodriguez's car was seen veering onto the road's shoulder.
After the initial stop, in which Rodriguez said he swerved to avoid a pothole, the officer wrote a written warning. But before allowing Rodriguez to drive away, the officer asked if the police dog could walk around the vehicle. That added about eight minutes to the stop.
Rodriguez declined, but the officer insisted. The dog then detected the drugs. Rodriguez was indicted on one count of possession with intent to distribute 50 grams or more of methamphetamine. He pleaded guilty pending his appeal and was sentenced to five years in prison.
6-3 Ruling:
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The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday placed a new limit on when police can use drug-sniffing dogs, ruling the dogs cannot be employed after a routine traffic stop has been completed if there is no reasonable suspicion about the presence of drugs in the vehicle.
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In an opinion by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the court held that a traffic stop lengthened purely to conduct a dog sniff without reasonable suspicion would violate the U.S. Constitution's Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures.
Another Article
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Police officers violate the Constitution when they extend an otherwise completed traffic stop to allow time for a trained dog to sniff for drugs, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled.
The justices, voting 6-3, said that officers must let the driver leave unless they have specific reasons to suspect the car is carrying contraband.
Police authority “ends when tasks tied to the traffic infraction are -- or reasonably should have been -- completed,” Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote for the majority.
Justice Thomas wrote the 6-3 ruling's dissent:
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Writing for the group, Thomas said Ginsburg’s reasoning would link the constitutionality of a drug sniff to the officer’s efficiency in completing the traffic stop.
Thomas also said the officer could have arrested Rodriguez and taken him to the police station just on the basis of the traffic violation. He pointed to a 2001 Supreme Court decision allowing arrests for the criminal offense of failing to wear a seatbelt.
“But because he made Rodriguez wait for seven or eight extra minutes until a dog arrived, he evidently committed a constitutional violation,” Thomas wrote. “Such a view of the Fourth Amendment makes little sense.”
The case is Rodriguez v. United States, U.S. Supreme Court, No. 13-9972.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:01 pm to AnonymousTiger
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the dogs cannot be employed after a routine traffic stop has been completed if there is no reasonable suspicion about the presence of drugs in the vehicle.
cops are magically going to be smelling smoked marijuana at every traffic stop
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:02 pm to AnonymousTiger
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if there is no reasonable suspicion about the presence of drugs in the vehicle
Question then becomes what is reasonable suspicion in this case. We all know cops can come up with some bullshite story to search a vehicle if they want.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:02 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Game changer
Guess I'll start running drugs from TX.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:02 pm to AnonymousTiger
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if there is no reasonable suspicion
This will be their defense, his eyes were red, I though I smelled weed, he was slurring his speach, etc.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Cops have remarkable olfactory systems. I had a cop smell pot on me when I hadn't smoked / been around any smoke in a few months.
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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cops are magically going to be smelling smoked marijuana at every traffic stop
I always enjoy that one. They don't ever come out and say it, they always say something to the effect of "sir, it smells like contraband in here" so if they decide to look and find pot, drugs, or liquor they're fine.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:04 pm to CuseTiger
it's already out there--look to existing law
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:04 pm to AnonymousTiger
Win for the home team.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:06 pm to Scruffy
i just read the article. alito nails it
this changes nothing
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In a dissenting opinion, Alito said the ruling would have little practical effect because police officers just need to learn the correct procedure for conducting a lawful dog sniff.
"I would love to be the proverbial fly on the wall when police instructors teach this rule to officers who make traffic stops," Alito wrote.
this changes nothing
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:06 pm to CuseTiger
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Question then becomes what is reasonable suspicion in this case. We all know cops can come up with some bullshite story to search a vehicle if they want.
"Your eyes look all bloodshot."
- "Yes, sir. It's April and my allergies are ---"
"GET THE frickING DOG DOWN HERE NOW."
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:07 pm to AnonymousTiger
Thomas is such a joke
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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cops are magically going to be smelling smoked marijuana at every traffic stop
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:07 pm to AnonymousTiger
Good.
Police dogs "alert" based on their handlers actions. I know the dog was correct in this case, but they are wrong a lot.
Police dogs "alert" based on their handlers actions. I know the dog was correct in this case, but they are wrong a lot.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:08 pm to Dr RC
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Thomas is such a joke
thomas is money on issues dealing with ICC
it seems that the dissents are just saying this won't do anything and conflicts with previous rulings. a practicality/stare decisis argument
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:09 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Cops have remarkable olfactory systems.
You could bring a cop to the desert and they would claim to smell fresh rain or a fresh cut field of grass if it helped push their revenue agenda.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:10 pm to schexyoung
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You could bring a cop to the desert and they would claim to smell fresh rain or a fresh cut field of grass if it helped push their revenue agenda.
i'm stealing this
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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cops are magically going to be smelling smoked marijuana at every traffic stop
I had one do the same to me. Had all my windows up and he pulled me over. I asked for what for - he said b/c he "smelled weed". After being a dick to him saying he should be out on coon hunts instead of policing, he asked to search my car. I refused and he said he was getting a search warrant so I waited for 20 mins until the judge refused to sign it FWIW, there was nothing in my car anyway, but I took some satisfaction in making him sweat, only to be made the fool. HPD's rejects come into the villages here and he is one.
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