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re: To all the Johnny Jones haters..
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:53 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:53 pm to drizztiger
quote:
LSU has since gone:
19-12 (9-9)
20-14 (9-9) (NIT)
22-11 (11-7) (NCAA)
Its the same old tune we heard when Brady was coach. Coach K's record his first few years at Duke was terrible. When Brady got a chance to play a Coach K team what happened.
IMO, fans should be supporting Coach Jones. The next hire could be more like Johnson.
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:03 pm to tigerclaw10
OP any person with a brain knows JJ is a great recruiter; however, he is horrible with player discipline strategy, in game coaching. With all the talent we have we most likely win 1 game in the tourney and are done....
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:06 pm to Tiger79
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OP any person with a brain knows JJ is a great recruiter; however, he is horrible with player discipline strategy, in game coaching. With all the talent we have we most likely win 1 game in the tourney and are done....
Any person with a brain wouldn't be saying what is likely to happen to this team almost a year from now
The roster may not even be finished yet
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:06 pm to roygu
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Its the same old tune we heard when Brady was coach.
quote:Trent made Brady look all-world.
The next hire could be more like Johnson.
Professionally wise, the issue with Brady was consistency. In hindsight, he wasn't nearly as bad as we made him out to be. But he also didn't do jack before LSU and hasn't done jack since.
I am hopeful that CJJ can win consistently at LSU.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:09 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:And none of the new recruits have set foot on campus yet. But we're done for next year already with an NCAAT win. What a horrible way to go. Case closed.
Any person with a brain wouldn't be saying what is likely to happen to this team almost a year from now
The roster may not even be finished yet
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:12 pm to drizztiger
I think that a large issue with our scoring droughts will be solved by having a guy like Simmons bringing the ball up the floor in crunch time
You could deny Martin the ball and try to have our guards shoot 3s. Now, our best player has the ball in that situation
You could deny Martin the ball and try to have our guards shoot 3s. Now, our best player has the ball in that situation
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:23 pm to Tom Bronco
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by Tom Bronco
Damn fine post
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:33 pm to TigerBait1127
I agree. We struggled with getting separation and open looks at times. Our outside shooters were good, but not great. Hornsby, as much as I respect him, struggled to get clear at times. If Gray was polished, he could have made a huge difference. He was able to penetrate and draw defenders, but then regularly missed easy layups, got the ball jacked from him or otherwise turned the ball over not being skilled in kicking the ball out.
We had the tendency to cross our fingers with Jayln and TQ jacking up 3s. If they went down, we kept trucking, if bricked, we go on droughts. Then we'd feed Mickey and he'd get the ball stripped down low or force a shot. I'm no coach, but if I played against LSU this past season, priority #1 is to deny Martin. If successful, LSU's offense was only fluid if guys were hitting.
That said, the addition of Simmons opens up a lot. Plus Blakeney can flat out shoot. I expect development from everyone, especially the guards. Hornsby, Patterson and TQ should get a lot of open looks. I'm not underestimating Gray making a huge jump and maybe not being a great PG, but solid coming off the bench and knowing what to do when he dribble drives.
LSU runs a great tempo for the roster as it looks today. Easily the main question mark is the development of the front court.
We had the tendency to cross our fingers with Jayln and TQ jacking up 3s. If they went down, we kept trucking, if bricked, we go on droughts. Then we'd feed Mickey and he'd get the ball stripped down low or force a shot. I'm no coach, but if I played against LSU this past season, priority #1 is to deny Martin. If successful, LSU's offense was only fluid if guys were hitting.
That said, the addition of Simmons opens up a lot. Plus Blakeney can flat out shoot. I expect development from everyone, especially the guards. Hornsby, Patterson and TQ should get a lot of open looks. I'm not underestimating Gray making a huge jump and maybe not being a great PG, but solid coming off the bench and knowing what to do when he dribble drives.
LSU runs a great tempo for the roster as it looks today. Easily the main question mark is the development of the front court.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 5:36 pm to Tom Bronco
quote:
Tom Bronco
this post makes too much sense
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:09 pm to nitwit
Not being a good in game coach, creating plays, or being organized, is why he has critics. The talent we had should have gotten to the sweet 16 or at least top 32.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:26 pm to Tom Bronco
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And some of you say he isn't good enough? Not an X and O's coach. Everytime I read that remark I think football fan. Basketball is not an X and O's game like that. There is no magic configuration of players that guarantees a bucket or a defensive stop every time.
Of course there's no guarantee, but you're dead wrong to say basketball isn't an x and o game. Good coaches can design an offense to get your scorers the ball in the right spots. Just look at how Princeton has given high seeds fits with their motion/back door cut offense.
True, it's not quite the same as football, but x ans o's are still very important in basketball.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:40 pm to atltiger6487
There are many parts to being a good coach.
Recruiting is one of them.
Can anyone say Miles is a great game manager ?
Much easier to get an Xs and Os assist., than a good recruiter.
Now, we just need to strengthen the staff w "detail oriented" individuals
Recruiting is one of them.
Can anyone say Miles is a great game manager ?
Much easier to get an Xs and Os assist., than a good recruiter.
Now, we just need to strengthen the staff w "detail oriented" individuals
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:41 pm to atltiger6487
quote:With all due respect, if we ran Princeton's offense the fans would be screaming about how boring it is and that CJJ is not letting the players show their stuff. Might be a bit hard to recruit all these young players with NBA in their eyes also. And refresh my memory. How many national championships has Princeton won? What is the highest they have gotten in the tournament? Do they do it with consistency? These days if you don't have the players you have got nothing.
Just look at how Princeton has given high seeds fits with their motion/back door cut offense.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 7:17 pm to atltiger6487
quote:This is an ignorant post IMO. Princeton offense is designed for less talented teams to equalize the court. And regardless, any DI basketball coach is familiar with available offenses and sets to run. Princeton, Motion, UCLA High Post, Flex, etc. Each have their advantages and weaknesses against defensive strategies.
Of course there's no guarantee, but you're dead wrong to say basketball isn't an x and o game. Good coaches can design an offense to get your scorers the ball in the right spots. Just look at how Princeton has given high seeds fits with their motion/back door cut offense.
In general it comes down to execution and talent. That does encompass coaching, but basketball coaches aren't drawing up spread offenses like we've seen in football. There is some innovation, but for the most part the strategy is there. Coaches choose the strategy and teach the players. Then the players attempt to execute to their ability.
Just because you've seen a team of undersized players win a game against a team of 6'10" giants in an NCAAT game is meaningless. The next game that great X&O coach running his great offense with the same players gets murdered by another group of better executing 6'10" giants - or even more common, that great X&O coach running the same offensive philosophy never makes the NCAAT because he players didn't execute it during the season or in their conference tourney.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:27 pm to drizztiger
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We struggled with getting separation and open looks at times
What team doesn't?
Stop trying to coach. If you could, you wouldn't be on a sports board beating your gums.
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:35 pm to drizztiger
quote:
That does encompass coaching, but basketball coaches aren't drawing up spread offenses like we've seen in football.
Duke does
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:39 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:Da fuq? Did you miss the part when I said I'm no coach or did you miss all the parts when I said it's about execution or did you miss the part that you're on a sports board doing the same?
What team doesn't?
Stop trying to coach. If you could, you wouldn't be on a sports board beating your gums.
WTF.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:44 pm to c on z
quote:Ok.
Duke does
You mean the team coached by the only DI coach to win 1000+ games in his career.
The same Duke team and coach that absent this year, lost in the 1st round of the NCAAT 2 of the 3 prior years?
He's the NCAA basketball greatest coach of our generation and he's gone 1 and done 2 of the last 4 years. Apparently memories only extend back a few weeks.
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:45 pm to tigerclaw10
Johnny is great for the program. There are better coaches but there are a whole lot worse.
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