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So, Cardinals fans, here 11 games into the season

Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:37 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:37 pm
How are you liking Jason Heyward so far?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278155 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:38 pm to
he's playing great defense tho!!1
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:42 pm to
still early

Tavarez death fricked everything up. And Miller was never going to be a Cardinal for much longer.

He doesn't listen to the pitching coach, manager, or catcher calling the game. He throws what he wants to throw. Been this way since they had to call his father in to have a heart to heart with him when he was 20 years old.

Heywards bat only hurts because Jay and a few others arent doing a fricking thing.

If heyward ever does get hot, him and Carpenter would set the table for a lot of Holliday rbi's.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:44 pm to
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Tavarez death fricked everything up.


Tavarez dying made Jason bat near the Mendoza line?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:44 pm to
Miller has been outstanding for the Braves so far, granted it's only two starts. And he's 24

if the Cards end up losing Miller and Jenkins for one year of mediocre production from Heyward it will look pretty bad
This post was edited on 4/19/15 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:53 pm to
I've been very happy with him so far
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

Miller has been outstanding for the Braves so far


2 starts, 10 innings pitched...

I see Shelby still hasnt figured out hoe to go longer than 5 or 6 innings in a start.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:01 pm to
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Tavarez dying made Jason bat near the Mendoza line?


We wouldnt have mad the trade. Thats what he is saying.
Posted by Eric4tigers
Member since Apr 2015
994 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:12 pm to
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If heyward ever does get hot


Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
6719 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:18 pm to
He's made 3 starts and is 2-0. He went 5 the first game, 5 in the second game which was delayed by rain and 6 today. 3 ERs through 16 innings. I will concede that his biggest issue thus far appears to be that he doesn't have an "out" pitch, which unnecessarily increases his pitch count.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:26 pm to
he just throws so many fricking pitches. tons of foul balls. so far, he hasn't given up many runs, but he's killing our bullpen by making them throw 4 innings every 5th day.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:34 pm to
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he just throws so many fricking pitches


He only threw 97 and 88 in his first two starts. I figured they were just trying to reduce wear and tear on his arm early in the year but I don't watch the Braves. The comment about the rain delay in one of his starts would make sense
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40250 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:37 pm to
How is he doing? Haven't payed attention at all to what him or the uptons are doing.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57350 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 11:59 pm to
quote:

He only threw 97 and 88 in his first two starts.


Yea, that's alot for 5 innings.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 1:19 am to
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if the Cards end up losing Miller and Jenkins for one year of mediocre production from Heyward it will look pretty bad



Mo said today he is targeting mid season to begin extension talks with Heyward, he isn't going anywhere.

To answer the OP, liking him a lot...for 11 games of 162.

This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 1:20 am
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17206 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 4:34 am to
8-3 with the best starting Era in baseball.... I think I like him a lot!!!
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77551 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:47 am to
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8-3 with the best starting Era in baseball.... I think I like him a lot!!!


Hardly any of this has anything to do with Heyward.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4191 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:08 am to
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So, Cardinals fans, here 11 games into the season



It's too early to tell anything this early in a baseball season. Last year at this point in the season, the Braves were 8-4 and we know how that turned out.

The thing that anyone will tell you about Heyward is he's streaky but his defense is good enough to carry him when he's not hitting well, and he walks enough that he generally gets on base at a decent rate. His WAR last year was 5.2 which is All-Star level. For whatever reason there are lots of Braves fans hate Heyward, but he's an exciting player who is still really young.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:01 am to
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For whatever reason there are lots of Braves fans hate Heyward


Because they loved him a lot, and he was hyped by their media as a 30+ HR hitting machine...and then their manager hit him leadoff and royally fricked him up.

He made significant changes to his stance and hands this offseason since he isn't hitting leadoff in STL ever, so 11 games is nowhere near enough time to really tell anything. All we know at this point is that he's likely going to win another gold glove, swipe around 20 bases, and is a perfect fit in the clubhouse. Everything else is way too damn early.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 8:06 am
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:06 am to
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