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re: GoT S5E2: "The House of Black & White" BOOK READERS

Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:23 pm to
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The thing is though Sansa already has that right. Marrying Ramsay does nothing for her or Littlefinger.

Exactly. I don't know what Littlefinger could possibly gain by reinforcing Ramsey's right to Winterfell. But if he wants to play a very bold and dangerous game he could let her be captured by Ramsey (while hiding his own involvement) and use that capture to spark the Great Northern Conspiracy. I don't really like that idea but it at least makes some kind of sense.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:33 pm to
Haters gonna hate...I've enjoyed E1&2 of this season.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:35 pm to
I thought this episode was much better than the first. I've enjoyed them, but I really enjoyed this one.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:36 pm to
Yeah. Both episodes have been very solid. Still, it's fun to nitpick them.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:39 pm to
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I don't know what Littlefinger could possibly gain by reinforcing Ramsey's right to Winterfell.


I could see him using Sansa as a vehicle for revenge against the Boltons for their betrayal of Catelyn. How exactly that goes down I don't know given what we know of Ramsay's role in the books with the pink letter and Stannis marching. But I think that, as well as gaining as many seats as he can for influence purposes, is his main motivations.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:44 pm to
I had plenty of complaints about the first one. This episode was great and I enjoyed all of the changes. Can't wait to see the Boltons in the ruins of Winterfell. My hate is going to be brewing.
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 11:15 pm to
There's going to be two different viewings for myself. The first, where I get really mad annoyed over every thing that they skip/change/alter/etc. Then the second, where I actually sit and enjoy the awesome work the show runners are doing condensing and even improving story lines.

Jaime going to Dorne (with Bronn!) is so much better than Jaime loathing around the Riverlands.

I don't know where Brienne's storyline is going, I was so shocked that they happened to come across Sansa and Littlefinger, and the subsequent happenings were as suspected. However, I do see Brienne being killed off now, what further purpose could she possibly serve?

Anyone else notice that the talk of grayscale is setting up for later in Tyrion's trip? We know that they get attacked by grayscale monsters in the books while traveling down river. I think the scene tonight guarantees it.

I don't know why we have to have the entire budget for the show blown on a minute long scene with Drogon, but we couldn't get the skeleton face with the worm hanging out. I just don't see why they feel the need to change things that don't need to be changed.

Making Jon Snow Commander of the Night's Watch took half a book and they condensed it down to one scene, yet they took what was one chapter of Arya's and made it into two scenes which was totally unnecessary. Give us the damn skull and eye worm.

/rant

I'll watch again later this week and love it. I really do think that they are improving on the storylines here.

Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 12:52 am to
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I really do think that they are improving on the storylines here.


Everything but the Sansa storyline maybe. The Sansa-Bolton thing is just plain retarded and doesn't make sense on any level.
Posted by Wolf
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:44 am to
I get why they didn't do it, but it made absolutely no sense storywise for Brienne to not tell Sansa that Arya is alive. She is trying to get her to trust her and Sansa thinks Arya is dead, so why would she not mention that?

Other than that it was a great episode. I've already watched the first 4 (the next 2 episodes are even better btw) so I still have 3 more weeks till I get to see a new episode
Posted by FleuryNipples
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 4:10 am to

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 5:39 am to
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I get why they didn't do it, but it made absolutely no sense storywise for Brienne to not tell Sansa that Arya is alive. She is trying to get her to trust her and Sansa thinks Arya is dead, so why would she not mention that?


Probably because Littlefinger was sitting there with too many eyes and ears.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:32 am to
I know it's dumb, but one of the few things that bothers me is the 'Kill The Masters' written in English.
Posted by bigcgt27
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:36 am to
So has it been mentioned/discussed/theorized that Brienne could essentially play the role of LSH? Not as an undead character, but maybe she meets up with the brotherhood and rampages in Cateyln's place?

Otherwise I'm having a hard time figuring out where she fits in all of this now that she has come across both sisters with neither of them enlisting her help.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 6:37 am
Posted by Samso
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:50 am to
Is it confirmed that LSH will not appear in the show?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:52 am to
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too many eyes and ears


Remember, she wanted to speak with Sansa in private.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:55 am to
Y'all still have hope she'll appear? That ship has sailed.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 6:56 am
Posted by bird35
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:20 am to
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On the flipside of that though is that technically she can't marry Ramsey because she's still technically married to Tyrion (in the eyes of the Iron Throne).



I don't know if she is considered married or not. She was "wedded but never bedded" so once this comes out I am not sure if her marraige to Tyrion will stand.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:38 am to
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Y'all still have hope she'll appear?

Yes.

quote:

That ship has sailed.

YOUR ship has sailed.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:45 am to
I laughed so hard at Cersei calling Margaery a smirking whore.

Anyone else thinks Bronn dies in Dorne?
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:11 am to
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Everything but the Sansa storyline maybe. The Sansa-Bolton thing is just plain retarded and doesn't make sense on any level.
I agree completely. The fact that she's just wandering around Westeros while wanted for murdering the king is ridiculous.

The writers must have a reason to continue Brienne's story. I wish they'd focus more on certain things that actually move the plot along and less on useless shite like Theon and dragon girl teaching people how to read.
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