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Give me some advice on buying a new 42-46 inch t.v.

Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:09 am
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:09 am
My old workhorse tv in the living room is finally on it's last legs after about a 20 year run. (that thing weighs about a ton but it's been a great t.v.)

The limiting dimension is really the width - a 40 inch absolute limit (though really anything much above 38 inch will be cutting it close. So far I haven't come across any 46 inch sets that would fit into that.

My main questions- what are some good brands and models in that size range? What's the deal with this "smart t.v." stuff? Do you need that to stream stuff through your internet router? Any other specs I should be looking for?

Right now I'm still cable (Cox) but I have been watching stuff like the LSU games on my PC and would like to do stuff like that and more on the t.v. itself.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14853 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:09 am to
sounds like you need to go sams or costco

Samsung
Sony

Vizio
Sharp

Stay away from weird brands you never heard of

Smart tv has to be connected to internet (wireless or wired)

Search the cut the cable thread
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40831 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:53 am to
I'd save the money and steer clear of smart tvs. There is no incentive for them to continue to upgrade the apps on those tvs, as they can force you to upgrade instead.

If you want smart functionality go out and buy a dedicated device like a roku or apple TV.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

I'd save the money and steer clear of smart tvs. There is no incentive for them to continue to upgrade the apps on those tvs, as they can force you to upgrade instead.


The problem with this thought is that the higher quality picture tvs come with the smart features. The true answer is to value the smart features at $0, and just compare the the picture quality between 2 tvs and ask yourself if the difference in picture quality/non-smart features is worth the difference in price.

The main thing to consider is your setup. How many devices do you have connected to your tv? Do you want to be able to connect 3 HDMI inputs directly to your tv, or are you ok with using an additional HDMI switch. Do you have an AV receiver? Do you want your tv and receiver to "talk" to each other? Others will ask what you watch, mostly sports, blu-ray movies, or regular tv from a cable box? Do you do a lot of gaming?
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

The problem with this thought is that the higher quality picture tvs come with the smart features. The true answer is to value the smart features at $0, and just compare the the picture quality between 2 tvs and ask yourself if the difference in picture quality/non-smart features is worth the difference in price.


100% agree with this.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45704 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 3:17 pm to
New Vizio M Series 4K, just came out in the last few days. $599

LINK

NETFLIX and AMAZON in 4k!
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9760 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:56 pm to
What do you watch?

Do you watch mostly cable and sports? Play video games? Most TV networks broadcast in 1080i, and sports channels like ESPN broadcast in 720p. Likewise, most currently released video games are still sub-1080p.

You probably won't hear this from anyone else, but unless you watch a lot of Blu Ray, buy a 720p TV. Stay away from the gimmick that is 4K.

Ideally plasma will give you the best picture quality, but OLEDs are a close second. OLEDs are pricey and pretty much only come in 1080p and 4k.

I think you can buy a Samsung 720p plasma for $500 or less.

I bought a 50 inch Bravia 1080p LED to replace my dead Plasma, and I swing back and forth between hatred and dislike. Sports footage looks blurry and fuzzy, color accuracy is less than ideal, and many PS3 games look like SD titles blown up in HD.

Anything in 1080p is fine though so if your an avid Netflix/Blu Ray watcher, go ahead with 1080p.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 5:05 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
45704 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 6:10 pm to
You obviously did not read the specs of the television and you obviously know little to nothing of the progression of 4K in the consumer and professional video industries.

This set has a 28 zone back-light technology, allowing it to evenly spread light out so there are no hotspots and dull areas. The inputs accept the new HDMI 2.2 specification, which is a requirement for the new Ultra HD Blu-Ray players and discs that hit the shelves later this year.

Amazon, YouTube and Netflix all have 4K movies and series now. Phones, such as Samsung's S6 and Note 4 all shoot in 4k video. If you're into it, there's 4K porn available.

4K is an 8 Megapixel palette. Most people's phones now already shoot photo content at resolutions exceeding that, so why wouldn't you want to show off your ultra high resolution images on an ultra high resolution display?

Your post displays an incredible lack of knowledge about 4K by you calling it a gimmick. You're correct, though, when you stated that he probably wouldn't get the response you gave him from anyone else.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9760 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

You obviously did not read the specs of the television and you obviously know little to nothing of the progression of 4K in the consumer and professional video industries.

This set has a 28 zone back-light technology, allowing it to evenly spread light out so there are no hotspots and dull areas. The inputs accept the new HDMI 2.2 specification, which is a requirement for the new Ultra HD Blu-Ray players and discs that hit the shelves later this year.

Amazon, YouTube and Netflix all have 4K movies and series now. Phones, such as Samsung's S6 and Note 4 all shoot in 4k video. If you're into it, there's 4K porn available.

4K is an 8 Megapixel palette. Most people's phones now already shoot photo content at resolutions exceeding that, so why wouldn't you want to show off your ultra high resolution images on an ultra high resolution display?

Your post displays an incredible lack of knowledge about 4K by you calling it a gimmick. You're correct, though, when you stated that he probably wouldn't get the response you gave him from anyone else.



Speaking purely on the issue of resolution, people love going ape shite over shiny new things, but that doesn't mean at the end of the day that it's all that worthwhile.

People are fawning over 4K much for the same reason people love LCD/LED TVs. They look very bright and crisp standing 2 feet from the TV.

Get it home and you turn the brightness down and probably sit 10 feet away from it.

How much he's going to benefit from 4K largely depends on screen size and how far he sits from the TV. For a 40 inch TV, he's going to have to sit no more than approximately 5 feet from the TV to notice a significant difference, and again, it depends on what he's going to be doing with the TV.

If he watches Netflix and UHD Blu Rays, he might want to consider 4K. You do have to pay extra per month for 4K content and it's pretty barebones right now, but you'll have to assume they'll add more later.

Cable TV and gaming aren't going to be in 4K any time soon though.

If I'm getting 4K, I'm waiting a few years until the technology becomes standardized and better sets are available for a cheaper price.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 7:35 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45704 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

If I'm getting 4K, I'm waiting a few years until the technology becomes standardized and better sets are available for a cheaper price.

I stand on my original statement:
quote:

You obviously know little to nothing of the progression of 4K in the consumer and professional video industries.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9760 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

You obviously know little to nothing of the progression of 4K in the consumer and professional video industries


I realize 4K is the future, but you've not done one thing to convince me as to why exactly I should care. I've already stated that the jump from 1080p to 4K is minimal at best, especially when sitting at a distance from the TV.

When I take the inevitable plunge to 4K, it will likely be because I can't find anything else and because my PS5 supports 4K resolution.

OP, if you're looking at buying this TV, please compare it to other similarly priced TVs that aren't 4K. Don't automatically assume that you're going to have a better picture based off of resolution alone. There are likely better TVs out there of a similar price range that aren't 4K. Don't sacrifice too much quality in the name of price though. Unless you're keen on upgrading your TV every 5 years, spend money on a TV you know you'll love.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:18 am to
LG
Samsung
Sony
Vizio

40". Make sure it has a refresh rate of at least 120 hz.
Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
10203 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:52 am to
quote:

gaming aren't going to be in 4K any time soon though.


When it comes to taking advantage of new technology, the early adapter list follows as such:

1. Porn
2. PC gaming






3. Everything else eventually.
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 1:54 am
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9302 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:45 am to
quote:

I think you can buy a Samsung 720p plasma for $500 or less.



I agree that they have great pq, but good luck finding any plasma right now
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 12:02 pm to
Thanks for all the tips and advice guys.

Still doing my research but right now I'm kind of leaning to the Vizio E series 43 inch which has pretty much the perfect dimensions for where I want to put it. Specs say it's 1080 and 120 Hz.

It does have the "smart tv" stuff which I gather from here that isn't a very valuable feature and I'll probably end up getting something like Roku in the long run. But it's pretty danged hard to find non smart ones with the specs recommended here and in the research I've done.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:35 am to
Make sure you have researched TV size versus viewing distance.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:13 pm to
OK, final report:

I did end up going with the Vizio 43 inch E series.

So far, we're very happy with it.

Picture is great. Though we got it late on a Saturday night and couldn't get to Cox to get the HD box till Monday so even though we knew the pic wouldn't be high def till that was done there was a little anxiety waiting to see how it would look.

Size is perfect for where it's at (built in entertainment cabinet that I couldn't work around without major construction so it was great that I found a size that was such a great fit).

Price was good - $388 or thereabouts at Wally World.

Cox remote set up easily with the t.v. so it's good to have everything controlled by one remote.

No real frills. But it's got a great picture, is easy to use and is wonderfully light after my old school set.

Only hiccup we had is that the Cox box was sending out 720 so I had to go in and change it to 1080. The 720 was actually a good picture but I figured might as well set it to the maximum setting that the t.v. can show.

Oh, and I kinda agree with what everyone said about Smart features not really adding much value. Only exception is that one of the apps that comes with it is Netflix and that's likely the only one I'd be looking to use/subscribe to in the near future so it might let me put off getting one of the roku/apple/chromecast devices for awhile. (Oh and there are a few good high def things on Youtube which is also one of the apps that comes with it).
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