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re: Keys to the Game (Gm 1)

Posted on 4/18/15 at 9:40 am to
Posted by TheSexecutioner
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 9:40 am to
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We have arguably the best perimeter defense in the league.


Posted by corndeaux
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 9:46 am to
Yeah. Davis will play 40 MPG. If Asik/Anderson play about 50 combined minutes, there's just not much left to worry about. We probably see more Cunningham at the "4" to combat the Klay, Barnes, Iggy, Green combo.

Davis will have to be a help defense terror. Asik/Anderson has been good the last 10 games in limited minutes. If they can sustain that, it will help tremendously.
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 9:49 am to
Actually according to the numbers we do have one of the better 3 point defenses in the league.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 9:56 am to
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Asik/Anderson has been good the last 10 games in limited minutes


Compared to who? Lisa Leslie? Certainly not compared to NBA players. Anderson has been absolutely atrocious since coming back. Shooting 32% with 8 points and 3.4 rebounds in 21 minutes while playing far and away the worst defense in the NBA. Asik has obviously been way better but is only shooting 43% and 46% from the line with 6.3 points in 25 minutes.

Asik/Anderson have combined for absolutely horrendous play that is an incredible liability to overcome. By no stretch of the imagination has their combined play been good. If they sustain this absolute dogshit level of play, that will indeed help Golden State tremendously.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 9:57 am to
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Actually according to the numbers we do have one of the better 3 point defenses in the league.


Games aren't won by 3 pointers alone. Perhaps thats the problem is we are over defending the 3. If we are getting blown by and giving up higher percentage shots because we are crowding the 3 point line, our perimeter defense is still terrible.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:06 am to
We've seen what packing the paint and giving up wide open 3s does, that was the strategy the last few years. This is better. The other team hitting open 3 after open 3 is soul crushing.
Posted by corndeaux
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:09 am to


LINK

Breaking even, compared to what they have been, is good. I've been banging the Anderson/Asik are shite together drum for some time now. Welcome to the party.
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:09 am to
I'm not sure what your definition of perimeter D is, but mine is guarding the line.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:11 am to
I think part of the problem is Davis. He's incredibly good and gifted. But he gets free reign to roam 25 feet from the hoop. That causes havoc, but it also leaves the mostly mediocre to poor perimeter defenders on their own and leaves Asik out to dry.

Not all of that is scheme; Davis blows rotations and the entire team has trouble communicating. Davis's defense lags behind his offense. Which is both shocking and terrifying.

ETA: Looking at the pairings from the link above, Davis/Anderson is +13 since Anderson's return. A huge very, very small sample size caveat with that number. But that is promising in this series. Same thing with Cunningham/Davis.
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 10:19 am
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:16 am to
We need good tyreke, which is the attacking and dishing version. If he starts trying to ISO and take deep shots I will punch something.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:20 am to
Davis/Anderson is the key here
Asik/Anderson is a tire fire

I think the fact that asik has done as well as he has while getting hung out to dry so often is undersold. it illustrates just how effective he can be in a good help defense system.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:25 am to
quote:

We need good tyreke, which is the attacking and dishing version


just like he was against SAS. 11 assists.
Posted by Sorrento Muddbugs
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 12:00 pm to
Speights is one guy we have to contain when he is out there. I don't think Ryan can but hopefully he can at least match his offensive production and we will be ok. Livingston is also a bad matchup for Cole so hopefully Monty figures this out .
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 12:03 pm to
and Barnes is a bad matchup for Gordon if we put pondexter on curry. Monty must be mindful of his substitutions.

you hate for your opponent to be able to dictate match ups but it may be unavoidable with this team
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 12:38 pm to
Total team defensive effort for us to pull it off. We don't do it consistently but maybe we can do it for 4 games out of 7
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:24 am to
That Deadspin article was pretty much spot on for most of the game. Not a ton of movement and it was easy for GS to shut the Pels down for most of the game.

Both BSS and TBW have great video breakdowns of the performance from Game 1.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:31 am to
McNamara

quote:

Pelicans actually got more uncontested shots than the Warriors (42-37), but Warriors shot 51.4% on theirs. Pels shot just 35.7%.


got to make shots
they were there
if the pels don't shoot out of their minds they cannot win in GSW

still confident they can beat this team at home though
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:50 am to
I'd be curious to see the quarter/half splits for that number. I checked NBA.com, but I didn't see that as an option on the player tracking box score or the Pels team stats page.

I don't remember many good looks in the first half at all. The 3rd quarter was pretty ragged for both sides, but they did do some work in the 4th with more spacing and better movement.

ETA: This article from Ziller is pretty awesome.

quote:

During the regular season, Davis averaged 6.4 points in fourth quarters, fifth-highest in the NBA. More impressively, he shot 58 percent from the floor, per NBA.com's stats page. He went a little better on Saturday: Twenty points on 7-of-10 shooting. The rest of the Pelicans went 5-of-15 for 13 points in the quarter. Davis was the sole reason New Orleans fought back into the game. He was the only thing separating the Pels from ignominy.


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There is literally no pressure on Davis to prove his chops, not after the season he had and the coup de grace he delivered in the Pelicans' clinching victory Wednesday against the Spurs. Getting to this point was enough to cement Davis' status as the brightest young star in the NBA galaxy. Now he's just whetting our appetite for what is possible. And what is possible is anything and everything.

Consider his accomplishment on Sunday, even in a loss. Few teams have been able to stop the Warriors this season, and only two inside Oracle Arena. Yet he single-handedly made that megalith sweat. He forced Stephen Curry to get off the bench. He shushed the loudest crowd in the nation. He shut up Green. (If only for a moment.) He dared step up to the greatest showmen in the NBA right now, and he had the most thrilling highlight.


quote:

Many of us lamented the loss of a maniacal Russell Westbrook raging against the Warriors and the world in a futile first-round flame war. What we got instead is a maniacal Anthony Davis menacing the best team on the planet. There are still no expectations for what the Pelicans might do in this series, and there can be no expectations for what Davis might yet become, for the human brain is incapable of grasping possibilities so vast.


This post was edited on 4/19/15 at 11:02 am
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 11:02 am to
Attacking the defense. The Warriors are 44-0 when holding their opponents under 100 pts. Ball movement and making open shots is critical.

Keep them close. The Warriors are 48-0 when they get a lead of 15+ pts. Avoiding the big runs and scoring droughts with smart timeouts and rotations.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38632 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 11:57 am to
that right there just made my day
gonna go sit in the sun at middendorfs now

we got this in game 3 & 4
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