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re: Dural: Harris "leading the way a quarterback is supposed to"

Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:11 am to
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:11 am to
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but Harris was head and shoulders better last year.

And it's undeniable.


Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:17 am to
The same people that complain about Jennings' 48% completions want Harris in when he completed what, 3 passes vs Auburn.


Harris may well take the job over the summer and that'd be great if it works out that way, but literally everyone outside of this board including Harris himself said he wasn't ready last year.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41811 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:18 am to
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Harris was better. Plain and simple. 
There is no justifiable reason to claim that Jennings gave us a better chance at winning. We won in spite of him in every possible way.


And didn't even know the playbook
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:22 am to
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The only practice I have to go by is the spring game but this sounds like exactly what happened last year.





The competition for the dumbass post of the day heats up.

You see one, ONE practice and make a decision?
I can tell that you played sports a lot.
Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:24 am to
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Harris was better. Plain and simple.
There is no justifiable reason to claim that Jennings gave us a better chance at winning. We won in spite of him in every possible way.



OK let's hear it. Since you can say Harris was undeniably better, let's hear your reasoning.


How was his reading of defenses pre snap?
How was his footwork?
Did he look off defenders?
How about checks at the line?
How many broken plays occurred under him?



I'm tired of posters like you spouting off that Harris was better without posting any sort of justification for your opinion outside of "he was just better man. It was obvious." So put on your coach hat and let's hear it. Actually break down Harris' game for me as a coach would.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4361 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:24 am to
Hype is media money And negative posters help keep the hype going !
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:28 am to
We went 8-5 last year basically because of QB play. With all the talent we had on the roster how is that the right decision? I still say if we were not able to win the SEC west then give the QB that is going or is supposed to be our QB of the future more playing time. Hey I don't mind the fact that they started Jennings, but when he wasn't effective "the Arkansas game is a perfect example" not letting Harris play at all is absolutely inexcusable.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:32 am to
This is above your pay grade holmes
Posted by lurkr
Member since Jan 2008
12365 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:52 am to
I guess the high ankle sprain Harris got in the Auburn game was worse than they let out. (shocking I know) Harris saying he was hurt the last 4 games is why he didn't play. (yeah I know, why believe him, he doesn't know what he is talking about) The Rant said play him.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:01 pm to
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Now show their completion percentages


Harris 38%

Jennings 53%

Harris was wildly inaccurate yet still accounted for 4 TD's and 0 TO's. Jennings was somewhat accurate and the D scored more points than he did.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57447 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:09 pm to
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I would think any competent head coach would value practice performance over glimpses of in-game brilliance.


This is the stupidest fricking thing I've read in this thread, and that's saying a lot.

Practice doesn't mean shite. Games do. If Harris can win you games with his flashes of brilliance over Jennings and his great practices, anyone not a moron would take the better game performer.

ETA: and no one that's been at the practices has even said that Jennings has been great there.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5855 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:14 pm to
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Jennings has a great attitude
Watch it change if he ever is demoted to pine rider.
We don't have a clue what will happen, but a repeat of last year wouldn't surprise me at all.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:20 pm to
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Practice doesn't mean shite. Games do. If Harris can win you games with his flashes of brilliance over Jennings and his great practices, anyone not a moron would take the better game performer.


quote:

This is the stupidest fricking thing I've read in this thread, and that's saying a lot.


Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:22 pm to
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This is the stupidest fricking thing I've read in this thread, and that's saying a lot.


Really, did you read this?

quote:

Practice doesn't mean shite.


Also..

quote:

If Harris can win you games with his flashes of brilliance


He hasn't proven that he can.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 12:24 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57447 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:24 pm to
Practice doesn't mean shite relative to what you said. Obviously it means something. Nice job cherry picking and deflecting from the stupid point that you would take a better practice player over a better in game performer.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:27 pm to
LSU will never be set at QB. We are cursed
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12493 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:35 pm to
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It seems that Jennings is much better in practice than in games. Les comes from the old school that places a greater value on practice than game performance. He will not pick Harris until he is better than Jennings IN PRACTICE. Game performance won't matter because Harris won't get into games. In Les's mind, he thinks " I know Jennings is better in practice but I gave Harris his shot (Auburn) and he couldn't do it. So no need to put him on the field again."
It seems you are suggesting Miles played the guy who consistently performed better in practice ahead of the guy who consistently performed worse in practice, and then played worse the one time he did get a shot at game time. And you seem to be suggesting that's a bad thing. Why? Because the Rant "knows" that Harris is "clearly" the better option? Wouldn't someone who's "clearly" the better option have outperformed the other guy somewhere along the way, either in practice or in his game performance?

I guess I'm wondering where and when Harris performed so much better than Jennings that proved without question that he was "clearly" the better option last year?

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:44 pm to
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Wouldn't someone who's "clearly" the better option have outperformed the other guy somewhere along the way, either in practice or in his game performance?


Well they're about to say that he's already outperformed AJ in the Miss St and SHSU games, even though coming in as a backup those games aren't apples to apples comparisons. The apples to apples comparison was the Auburn game, where he started and was specifically gameplanned against.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:54 pm to
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The apples to apples comparison was the Auburn game, where he started and was specifically gameplanned against.


There is no true apples to apples. Jennings played that game as well and was equally ineffective in relief.

Fact of the matter, talent doesn't equal success at the QB position. Neither of these QB's have shown themselves to be capable of leading LSU to a national championship and every single one of us should be cautious with our expectations for them. Hope to God one of them improves so we don't have to see shitty play again and maybe it's good enough to win a SEC championship. As much as Les Miles angers me at times, I guarantee he will start Harris if he looks like Cam Newton out there. Miles wants the super athlete that can't be stopped. If that guy isn't there, he falls into the conservative guy strategy that is the "safe choice".
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26585 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 1:06 pm to
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With all this hype surrounding Harris this off season, I will be shocked if Jennings is named the starter. There has been next to no reports on Jennings and how he is progressing.


More like you've closed your eyes to the reports. They've talked about improvement from both at different things. The only reason Harris is mentioned more is because that's all the media and the vast majority of the fanbase want to know about.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 1:07 pm
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