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Would You Draft La'el Collins at 13 if you planned to play him at Guard?
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:24 pm
I think that Collins will make a good Tackle in the NFL.
I think that he would be a perennial All-Pro at Guard.
Do you draft him at 13 if you think that he can anchor your line and be an All-Pro for the next decade or more at Guard?
I think that he would be a perennial All-Pro at Guard.
Do you draft him at 13 if you think that he can anchor your line and be an All-Pro for the next decade or more at Guard?
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:25 pm to AlaTiger
Let him play tackle for a year or two, then transition him to guard as needed.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:25 pm to AlaTiger
I would draft him. I think he would be a monster at guard. Either him or the Iowa lineman and I would be fine with it.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:26 pm to AlaTiger
Yes
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:27 pm to AlaTiger
quote:
he can anchor your line and be an All-Pro for the next decade
If you thought this why wouldn't you draft him?
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:30 pm to saintsfan22
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If you thought this why wouldn't you draft him?
At 13.
To play Guard.
I have read people here over the years say that we should never draft a Guard in the first round. Plus, he projects at Tackle, but I think he would make a better Guard over the long haul.
He will be a good Tackle and a great Guard, IMO. I'd rather have someone be dominant on the OLine than just be good. I can get "good" in later rounds or in a FA.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:30 pm to AlaTiger
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I think that he would be a perennial All-Pro at Guard
I think this as well, so my answer is yes.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:39 pm to ClientNumber9
quote:I think I'd do the opposite.
Let him play tackle for a year or two, then transition him to guard as needed.
Let him the fill the guard need now so he can replace Strief when the time comes.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:41 pm to AlaTiger
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At 13.
To play Guard.
So? There aren't more than 4-5 players in a draft that will be perennial All-pros, unless it's a P/K/FB you take that especially at 13.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:41 pm to AlaTiger
Yes. I think his floor is a good starting Guard for the next 10 years or so. His ceiling could be anywhere from All-Pro Guard to All-Pro RT. His flexibility would give us a lot of options going forward. Strief probably has another 2-3 years at most before we move on. Would be nice to have a potential replacement already starting on the line.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:43 pm to AlaTiger
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If you thought this why wouldn't you draft him?
At 13.
To play Guard.
I have read people here over the years say that we should never draft a Guard in the first round. Plus, he projects at Tackle, but I think he would make a better Guard over the long haul.
He will be a good Tackle and a great Guard, IMO. I'd rather have someone be dominant on the OLine than just be good. I can get "good" in later rounds or in a FA.
If you think the guy can be an All Pro for a decade, you take him, regardless of position on offense/defense. Guards are very important in our offense anyway, as Drew Brees struggles when he gets pressure up the gut and we're putting a big emphasis on the running game.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:46 pm to AlaTiger
With knowing exactly how Jahri Evans' career turned out, would you have drafted him at 13? I would've. I think Collins would be just as solid at guard in his career but with the ability to kick outside when necessary.
Play Collins at guard for a couple years and then transition him to RT after Strief leaves/retires.
Play Collins at guard for a couple years and then transition him to RT after Strief leaves/retires.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:48 pm to AlaTiger
Absolutely. The reason why most teams do not draft guards until later on is because they do not value them as much as Tackles. In our system, a dominate Guard is more important that a dominate Tackle. As a result, if they truly believe he will be an All-Pro, they have to draft him when they believe they have a chance to.
Also, the last few years you have been seeing some of these trends change anyway. Dallas drafted a Center in the 1st, one of the Pouncey's was drafted to play Center in the 1st. And, there have been a few guards drafted in the 1st.
Also, the last few years you have been seeing some of these trends change anyway. Dallas drafted a Center in the 1st, one of the Pouncey's was drafted to play Center in the 1st. And, there have been a few guards drafted in the 1st.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:48 pm to AlaTiger
quote:You draft him at #1 if necessary if you think he's going to be an All-Pro and anchor your line for the next decade.
Do you draft him at 13 if you think that he can anchor your line and be an All-Pro for the next decade or more at Guard?
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:49 pm to ClientNumber9
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Let him play tackle for a year or two, then transition him to guard as needed
IMO, that does not make sense. We have 2 really good, not great, tackles right now. And, we have a hole at the guard spot from trading away Grubbs.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:49 pm to AlaTiger
Depends on if any stud drops to 13 and how far the drop off is from Collins and say Cann in the 2nd.
Would hope we could trade down a few picks and then grab him.
Would hope we could trade down a few picks and then grab him.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:49 pm to AlaTiger
He may start at guard on some teams but eventually is at least a right tackle, maybe even a LT.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:50 pm to AlaTiger
13 should be too valuable of a pick and we should find a player of equal talent at a higher impact position. Guard is not a high enough impact position to be taken at 13. My 2 cents. You can't use a Jahri Evans, a 4th round pick, as justification on why we should take a player like that at 13.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:50 pm to AlaTiger
Would I? Yes
Will we? No
We've had a history of not finding OL in the 1st round, but finding the gems later on. I think this is what we'll continue (which I understand). I trust our o-line evaluation and I can bet we'll find someone worth a damn in the 2nd or 3rd.
Will we? No
We've had a history of not finding OL in the 1st round, but finding the gems later on. I think this is what we'll continue (which I understand). I trust our o-line evaluation and I can bet we'll find someone worth a damn in the 2nd or 3rd.
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