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re: WWYD?: Principal refuses to return cell phone to parent.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:05 am to Grilled Bald Eagle
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:05 am to Grilled Bald Eagle
It's not theft because they intend to return the phone eventually, but it does seem to be an unreasonable seizure if it is to be held that long.
Schools have an interest in keeping cell phone use out of classrooms, and punishment for doing so is not uncalled for. But keeping the phone for that long amount of time is very likely not going to hold up should the parents contest the policy. Seizing the phone for the rest of the day seems to be more reasonable.
Schools have an interest in keeping cell phone use out of classrooms, and punishment for doing so is not uncalled for. But keeping the phone for that long amount of time is very likely not going to hold up should the parents contest the policy. Seizing the phone for the rest of the day seems to be more reasonable.
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:06 am to AnonymousTiger
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Schools have an interest in keeping cell phone use out of classrooms, and punishment for doing so is not uncalled for. But keeping the phone for that long amount of time is very likely not going to hold up should the parents contest the policy. Seizing the phone for the rest of the day seems to be more reasonable.
Exactly.The phone should be given back at the end of the day or if it continues to be a problem the kid looses the privilege of having the phone on campus.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:08 am to tylercsbn9
Yeah they should have a policy such as if a student breaks the cell phone policy and confiscation is a consequence...it should be at the beginning of the day--until the end of the day, forever how long the penalty is...and the failure to bring the phone in at the beginning of the day is a suspension.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:11 am to JordonfortheJ
did he ever get the phone back?
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:12 am to AnonymousTiger
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It's not theft because they intend to return the phone eventually,
Correct
But it would be unauthorized use of a movable.
unauthorized use of a movable
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 11:14 am
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:12 am to JordonfortheJ
Phone was bought and paid for by parents. It is their property. If they request it it's theirs. I would call the cops as well. It's basically theft.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:22 am to JordonfortheJ
You spelled Jordan wrong
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:23 am to Grilled Bald Eagle
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Keeping the phone is theft, plain and simple.
Someone doesn't know what "theft" is.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:24 am to JordonfortheJ
Easy solution give the phone to the kid at the end of the school day
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:31 am to oleyeller
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unless they want to pay the bill im picking up the phone
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:41 am to JordonfortheJ
If I was the parent I would make school pay for the phone line for however long they had the phone. Phone costs $60 a month and they had it for 3 weeks, i would want to be reimbursed $45.
Send your message to the kid without it coming back on the parents' finances
Send your message to the kid without it coming back on the parents' finances
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:42 am to WreckinRams05
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If I was the parent I would make school pay for the phone line for however long they had the phone. Phone costs $60 a month and they had it for 3 weeks, i would want to be reimbursed $45.
Good luck with that.
Turn service off to the phone until you get it back.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:43 am to JordonfortheJ
School policies are posted online, read aloud to students, given in writing and require a parent signature on the conduct contract.
In what world do you work in that allows people to nullify a contract for their OWN personal breech of contract? Any parent who expects to have any grounds for argument at all should make sure they read the full policy BEFORE signing an agreement.
If they don't like it, there's always another school that would be happy to take their money. Free education in part means you play by the rules of those in charge. We don't get to file homestead exemption and tell the government that we disagree with their policy so we're going to invent our own rules this tax season.
In what world do you work in that allows people to nullify a contract for their OWN personal breech of contract? Any parent who expects to have any grounds for argument at all should make sure they read the full policy BEFORE signing an agreement.
If they don't like it, there's always another school that would be happy to take their money. Free education in part means you play by the rules of those in charge. We don't get to file homestead exemption and tell the government that we disagree with their policy so we're going to invent our own rules this tax season.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:45 am to WreckinRams05
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If I was the parent I would make school pay for the phone line for however long they had the phone
Just how are you going to "make" them do that? Does it affect their credit if you stop paying the bill because you're "making" them pay it.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:45 am to Tigerstudent08
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I would assume any decent parent would know of that school rule. Probably wasn't something hidden in the middle or back of the rule book. Next time maybe his kid won't have their phone out in class. She said it would be returned in a couple weeks so I don't see the big problem.
A bad rule is a bad rule. If they want to confiscate and hold the phone that badly, they can pay the pro-rated share of the cell phone bill.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:47 am to AnonymousTiger
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Schools have an interest in keeping cell phone use out of classrooms, and punishment for doing so is not uncalled for. But keeping the phone for that long amount of time is very likely not going to hold up should the parents contest the policy. Seizing the phone for the rest of the day seems to be more reasonable.
Exactly. Could you imagine the liability the school would be in if the kid got hurt on his way back from home and couldn't communicate that via cell phone?
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:55 am to tigerstripedjacket
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In what world do you work in that allows people to nullify a contract for their OWN personal breech of contract? Any parent who expects to have any grounds for argument at all should make sure they read the full policy BEFORE signing an agreement.
Schools can ban the phones from school grounds.
Schools can expel the student from school for violating the rules.
Schools CANNOT seize property belonging to the parents.
Failure to return the phone to the parents when requested could violate the unauthorized use of movable statute.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:56 am to Jcorye1
Three years ago, I witnessed a parent call the police to get a phone back from the principal, it was a public(charter school), wasn't the child's first offense with the phone. The school held the phone for 2 weeks.
When the police showed up the school produced the letter she signed stating the school could hold the phone for two weeks, if the student broke the school's cell phone policy. She didn't get her son's phone back but she did get arrested.
The woman ended up being arrested after she called the police officer an Uncle Tom.
When the police showed up the school produced the letter she signed stating the school could hold the phone for two weeks, if the student broke the school's cell phone policy. She didn't get her son's phone back but she did get arrested.
The woman ended up being arrested after she called the police officer an Uncle Tom.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:57 am to Brightside Bengal
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why do black people repeat the same words & sentences over and over again? The father & the principal both do it.
Well the father really didn't have to say anything else other than give him his phone back and that he had phoned the police.
That's really all that needed to be said.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:01 pm to AnonymousTiger
There isn't a much more clear Gestapo than a school system.
I know in Alabama parents/children have no true advocate. They have one in theory that's................
wait for it............employed by the BOE.
I had to hire an attorney just to go sit in the class with my son because they said he did something that's totally out of character and wouldn't show me the video to prove to me he did what they said he did. I tried to take it all the way to the Supt. and he told me there was absolutely no way any of his employees weren't telling me the whole truth.
And this is a public school system.
I know in Alabama parents/children have no true advocate. They have one in theory that's................
wait for it............employed by the BOE.
I had to hire an attorney just to go sit in the class with my son because they said he did something that's totally out of character and wouldn't show me the video to prove to me he did what they said he did. I tried to take it all the way to the Supt. and he told me there was absolutely no way any of his employees weren't telling me the whole truth.
And this is a public school system.
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