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re: First day of Apple Watch preorders: 957,000

Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:39 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:39 pm to
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Also, are there a lot of sheep references?


From the sheep, yep.

They believe you can't buy an apple product without being some brainwashed sheep, yet all recite the same phrases.

I've got apple products and other products. I buy what works for what I need.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:54 am to
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They believe you can't buy an apple product without being some brainwashed sheep, yet all recite the same phrases.

I've got apple products and other products. I buy what works for what I need.
As most of us do. But this thread is about a million people in one day paying a bare minimum of $350 for a device that is being marketed more as a fashion accessory than as tech. Are you one of those people?
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:05 am to
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bare minimum of $350 for a device that is being marketed more as a fashion accessory than as tech. Are you one of those people?



I bought the $399 Sport watch as a tech piece. I see no value in paying much more for a tech piece that will be outdated in just a few years so I agree with you on that level.

However as I said before people buy new Apple products because most are already in the Apple eco system & mostly based on their solid history of putting out winners. They want to get theirs early not wait for months for production to catch up to demand. Shipping dates are already months behind.

Also, they don't see $300-$400 as a big deal for a tech piece, nor do I, and obviously a significant number can readily afford to pay a much higher price.

Price isn't much of an issue to an affluent customer base.

What will be an issue is if the Watch doesn't live up to its promises.

Time will soon tell.



Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:25 am to
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However as I said before people buy new Apple products because most are already in the Apple eco system
Almost as if they don't have a choice?
Posted by Louie T
htx
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:42 am to
You're an imbecile.
Posted by GFunk
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:45 am to
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Korkstand
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Almost as if they don't have a choice?


But aren't smartwatches like Pebble and others compatible with iOS? There was some $15 POS on Meh.com the day that the Apple Watch went on sale that was a gag to coincide with pre-ordering kicking off that's also compatible.

They could also choose not to buy one as well. Where's this inability to choose you're discussing?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:09 am to
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Sorry you can't follow along why OSX users are the ones that broke from the massive Windows Sheep herd in the first place & why they're not sheep for being more inclined to stick with Apple products.

You can't explain it, because it makes no sense. If these microsoft sheep existed, here's what you'd find: they would all have windows phones, not Android, and the memes would support you, instead of me. You have to have some sort of brain injury.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:11 am to
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You're an imbecile.


Undoubtedly.

But since all you can come up with is that instead of a substantive response what does that make you?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:12 am to
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Doing the same as everyone else is not what makes someone a "sheep". Most people use Windows simply because most people use Windows. It makes the world go 'round. It's how things get done cost-efficiently. It gets the job done. It's not the size of the herd that defines a sheep, it's the sheep.


The other "sheep" are the android fans. Same argument, different forum. My product is superior to yours because you're brainwashed, blah blah blah

If it works for you, go for it. Not sure why people feel they have to shite on things to feel somewhat superior.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:15 am to
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Almost as if they don't have a choice?

As opposed to a new PC buyer having to purchase Windows 8?

Or A Samsung phone needing to be wrung of all the crapware it comes with out of the box?

Sure, in that light they have plenty of choices.

But Apple products will naturally be at the top of the list.

That doesn't make them Sheep. Someone that pays for Windows 8 because they refuse to look outside of Windows, now that's a sheep.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 11:16 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:16 am to
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The other "sheep" are the android fans. Same argument, different forum. My product is superior to yours because you're brainwashed, blah blah blah
Another one that doesn't understand the sheep thing. Dude, that's not what it means.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:28 am to
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If these microsoft sheep existed, here's what you'd find: they would all have windows phones, not Android


That's actually a decent point. But considering Android had a massive lead, and Windows phone fumbled out the box, not a big surprise.

Had Microsoft jumped on the smart phone much earlier, most of the Windows sheep would probably be on it.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:38 am to
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this thread is about a million people in one day paying a bare minimum of $350 for a device that is being marketed more as a fashion accessory than as tech.


There are 335 million active iPhone users. So 0.29% of Apple's mobile customer base signed up the first day. They only expect to sell to 10% of that customer base in the first year. LINK

This really is much ado about nothing, both in being a news story and people taking the time to react to it.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:49 am to
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Windows phone fumbled out the box
They are the greatest phones available. Nokia for life.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:13 pm to
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They could also choose not to buy one as well. Where's this inability to choose you're discussing?
I said "almost as if.." in response to Gman's statement that people buy Apple because they are already in the ecosystem.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:20 pm to
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The other "sheep" are the android fans.
The people who use a Google OS on a Samsung/LG/whatever phone with a Dell/HP/Asus/whatever PC running a Microsoft OS? Sheep? Are you sure they aren't just using the products they need at prices that make sense to them?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:34 pm to
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The people who use a Google OS on a Samsung/LG/whatever phone with a Dell/HP/Asus/whatever PC running a Microsoft OS? Sheep? Are you sure they aren't just using the products they need at prices that make sense to them?


If you worship droid and hate Apple, yes.

For the normal folks who use whatever works for them and don't give a shite about what anyone else is using, no.

Apple/Droid is the Ford/Chevy of the Millennial generation.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:51 pm to
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As opposed to a new PC buyer having to purchase Windows 8?
1. A computer is useless to most people without an OS, so having one is necessary for a functional product
2. It is possible to get a refund
3. The fraction of the purchase price paid for Windows is minimal
4. Can I buy a Mac without paying for OSX? Didn't think so
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Or A Samsung phone needing to be wrung of all the crapware it comes with out of the box?
What's that got to do with anything?
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But Apple products will naturally be at the top of the list.

That doesn't make them Sheep. Someone that pays for Windows 8 because they refuse to look outside of Windows, now that's a sheep.
I don't think anybody in this world refuses to look outside of Windows. The bottom line is it gets the job done, and Apple doesn't come close to matching the value per dollar.



Everyone has choices, but there is a huge difference between choosing products that meet one's value expectations, and voluntarily locking oneself into a particular vendor's products. As expensive as it is to buy into the Apple ecosystem, it's even more expensive to stay in it, and yet more expensive to buy out of it. Why anyone, much less a million people in one day, could so desperately want to spend so much money on a product with such limited value and lifespan is beyond me. It seems to take a certain kind of mentality, if you know what I mean.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:55 pm to
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If you worship droid and hate Apple, yes.



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Apple/Droid is the Ford/Chevy of the Millennial generation.

No, no, no no, no. It's already been defined on your side that Microsoft is key.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 1:03 pm to
I wonder who isn't a sheep. Fire phone users? Well no, since they're running an Android fork.

One Plus One users? Crap, still an Android fork.

Maybe Tizen-based phones? Well, Samsung is a pretty popular phone brand too, so we could call them Samsung sheep because they're even more Samsung-ingrained than Galaxy owners.

Chromebook owners? More Google sheep I guess. Maybe Hackintosh builders? Nope, just smarter Apple sheep keeping their options open. Hell, even I'm the biggest sheep of all given the number of herds I've rolled with, past and present.

What if Apple started offering Windows-only versions of some of their PCs and suddenly decided to make OS X open source? How many border collies would it take to recover from such chaos?
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