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re: Cop shoots suspect who is already detained by police

Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7318 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:47 am to
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Tulsa Police Sgt. Jim Clark, who investigated the shooting at the request of the sheriff's office, concluded that Bates had been under the influence of a phenomenon known as "slips and capture," which occurs when a person's behavior "slips" off the intended course of action because it's "captured" by a stronger response.




That might be the most made up bullshite I have ever heard
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29365 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:48 am to
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Why do we have a 73-year old armed civilian running around under color of state law?


I mean, THIS?!?!?

Is being a cop so simple that we can give a 73yr old insurance salesman a gun and a badge and tell him "Have fun" on the weekends?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66890 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Authorities identified the shooter as 73-year-old reserve deputy Robert Bates and said he meant to use his stun gun.



Why the frick is old man river on the street trying to subdue criminals
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84058 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:48 am to
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There was no reason whatsoever for a taser to be fired.


I don't agree with that. Dude was definitely resisting.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108735 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Have people always been this disobedient to cops or is this more of a recent trend?


I think the main reason we see this more often now is because everyone has a camera on their cell phones now.

I have a buddy that's getting out of the military and is going into law enforcement. I was talking to him this weekend and told him "ALWAYS be thinking that no matter what you're doing someone is probably recording it."
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55219 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:48 am to
It's just sad. 73 year old should not have been in that position.
Posted by crews12
SELA
Member since Feb 2008
1761 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:51 am to
If at least 2-3 officers can't handle one guy already down in the street, they shouldn't be in the field.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
10998 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:51 am to
I expect to see a murder charge.
Posted by tap011
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
771 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:52 am to
Gosh damnit
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Cop shoots suspect who is already detained by police
quote:

A white reserve sheriff's deputy thought he was holding a stun gun, not his handgun, when he fatally shot a black suspect during an arrest caugh t on video in Tulsa, Oklahoma, police
said.


This does not compute.

Eta. White cops can you please stop shooting black people who don't deserve it. Thanks
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 8:55 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84058 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:53 am to
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If at least 2-3 officers can't handle one guy already down in the street, they shouldn't be in the field.


I have no issue with nonlethal force to subdue a person in that situation. Just because they could take him down without it, why not use your tools? Why should they risk grappling with the guy if they don't have to?

Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13848 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:53 am to
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I don't get how you can mistake a taser for a pistol.


When the new tasers are shaped much like a pistol....
Fired from the hip, you wouldn't see the bright yellow.



Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:56 am to
quote:

There was no reason whatsoever for a taser to be fired.


The dude was obviously not complying with the officers. I could see where a taser would be justified here but damn...

How do you confuse your taser with a gun? I've never held a taser before but he has to look at the damn thing to aim it before he shoots it right? What a dumbass. Maybe 73 years old is too old to be a reserve police officer.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:57 am to
Wasn't the BART case also about a cop using his service piece on accident thinking it was his taser?
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:57 am to
Shouldn't they be trained to know which is which without even thinking. Taser on my right gun on my left
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 8:57 am
Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
5776 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:58 am to
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When the new tasers are shaped much like a pistol.... Fired from the hip, you wouldn't see the bright yellow.

Even if that's the case, wouldn't someone that is trained know exactly where their taser is and exactly where their pistol is? Seems like you would have them on opposite sides of their belt and the only way you would grab the wrong one is if you are severely untrained.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:59 am to
quote:


When the new tasers are shaped much like a pistol....
Fired from the hip, you wouldn't see the bright yellow.


Are they really fired from the hip? I'm pretty sure you have to look down them and aim it like a gun. At which point you realize it's a Neon Yellow Taser, not a gun.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Have people always been this disobedient to cops or is this more of a recent trend?


maybe you're on to something chicken, even if its on a small level for whatever reason every single person seems like they have the need to resist, they just can't simply comply at first request by the officer

to note, the old bastard was completely in the wrong here
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 9:03 am
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40772 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 9:02 am to
I was going to start this thread when I got to work and title is F*** Your Breath, which is quoting the cop when the guy told him he couldn't breath.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11266 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 9:03 am to
quote:

When the new tasers are shaped much like a pistol....
Fired from the hip, you wouldn't see the bright yellow.


it always seemed like asking for trouble, but you would still expect better from a trained professional that is allowed to carry a firearm.
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