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re: Is it legal for dental hygienists to open a teeth cleaning practice?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 4:58 pm to lsunurse
Posted on 4/11/15 at 4:58 pm to lsunurse
quote:Depends on your genetics. I get mine cleaned twice yearly, sometimes thrice. My twin sister has such good teeth (she got my dad's, I got my mom's teeth), that she only goes once sometimes twice.
Annual? Shouldn't you be getting cleanings at least twice a year?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 5:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The idea is to prevent people from needing procedures in the first place if they get adequate, thorough cleanings at affordable prices. Getting an annual cleaning greatly reduces risks of cavities and gum issues.
There is no scientific basis for the twice yearly cleaning protocol. This was only adopted because two cleanings per year was what the first dental insurance plans offered.
Pt that are seen regularly do tend to have less problems, since they can be educated more often on proper hyg and diet and small problems can be fixed before they get to be major issues.
Some patients think as long as they get their cleanings they shouldn't have any problems. The days between the annual cleaning and what the patient does during that time are far more important than the two days with cleanings.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 5:23 pm to ruzil
quote:better safe that sorry though....
There is no scientific basis for the twice yearly cleaning protocol.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 5:40 pm to lsunurse
If he never goes he could have a mouth full of cavities now.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 5:47 pm to FoodExit
quote:Yep. I used to think that all cavities caused pain, so I assumed that no pain=no cavities.
If he never goes he could have a mouth full of cavities now.
I found out the hard way one dental visit that that is not true....
Posted on 4/11/15 at 5:49 pm to FoodExit
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If he never goes he could have a mouth full of cavities now.
Well he didn't 5 years ago after like 10 years of never going. So maybe he still doesn't?
But yeah...I already tried using that reasoning on him as well to go. He's just being lazy and stubborn and a typical male in regards to seeking medical care. His dental insurance covers 2 cleanings so he wouldn't have to pay a dime to go.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 5:55 pm to lsunurse
I had someone argue recently that fluoride does no good and causes cancer. I told him need to ask all the people around who lived in the days before flouridated water how many cavities they have. And while your at it ask the Brits how no cleaning is working for them.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 6:07 pm to lsuwins3
Just tell your friend that every cancer patient ever drinks water, so obviously, water causes cancer.
FWIW BR does not fluoridate their water.
FWIW BR does not fluoridate their water.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 6:12 pm to ruzil
C.J. Richard, a Walker dentist and local representative of the Louisiana Fluoridation Advisory Board, says when the LSU School of Dentistry was temporarily relocated to Baton Rouge after Hurricane Katrina, the faculty found the middle-class population of Baton Rouge seemed to have more cavities than poor people from New Orleans. New Orleans, unlike Baton Rouge, has fluoridated water.
No wonder I've been getting cavities, I'm taking my Skittles and moving to New Orleans.
No wonder I've been getting cavities, I'm taking my Skittles and moving to New Orleans.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 6:19 pm to ruzil
Your thoughts on fluoride treatments
Posted on 4/11/15 at 6:56 pm to lsunurse
Topical Fl has shown benefits in reducing caries. I recommend it in my practice.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 6:58 pm to ruzil
Ok cool, I got one with my last cleaning and didn't know if I really needed it or not. But only $25 so figured why not. With my history of needing lots of dental work(I've had several root canals/crowns/cavities) figured it couldn't hurt to get it.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 7:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Unless the hygienist charged significantly less....like 25 bucks to do the cleaning, I would not see the appeal in going to a cleaning only office. For starters, there is no way they could make a profit on only 25 bucks a cleaning. Secondly, the main thing you want when getting a cleaning is not the cleaning itself, it is the checkup by the dentist that you want. You hope the dentist will catch a forming cavity so he can fill it for $75, rather than needing a $750 crown 3 years later because you have been going to a cleaning only clinic.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 7:17 pm to Dr. Shultz
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The idea of a cleaning is just to get patients in the door so the dentist can check them out for cavities or other oral problems.
Exactly. The cleaning is done at a relatively small profit to the dentist. The cleaning (from the dental business perspective) is simply a marketing tool to get you in for more expensive procedures. No dentist office could stay open if all they did was cleanings. It's like how an attorney might offer free or cheap advice at an initial consultation in hopes of you using him if your issue needs more work.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 4/11/15 at 7:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm going to respond to you w/o reading any other responses.
Dentists would fall over in the street with anger and vitriol.
Then they would hire lobbyists (as cheaply as possible, of course) to be sure such a highly logical thing would never happen.
Dentists would fall over in the street with anger and vitriol.
Then they would hire lobbyists (as cheaply as possible, of course) to be sure such a highly logical thing would never happen.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 9:35 pm to ruzil
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It's legal in Colorado. I don't think the business model is feasible though as hyg fees are generally a loss leader.
I have had a dentist friend of mine tell me that the opposite is true. The dental hygienists can make a lot of money for a dental office.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 9:46 pm to VetteGuy
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Dentists would fall over in the street with anger and vitriol.
Then they would hire lobbyists (as cheaply as possible, of course) to be sure such a highly logical thing would never happen.
I think you might get a little push back from the old guard and that would be an expected response initially. I don't think it would take very long for them, having considered their collective experience with hygienists,to realize that it wouldn't cause too much disruption in their practices.
There are very few hygienists that have the business acumen necessary to run a dental practice, let alone, a practice limited to dental hygiene. If they do their due diligence, they would quickly understand that the current fee schedule would not allow for business success.
The ready, fire, aim type would have an impossible time getting the capital necessary to do a decently appointed dental hygiene office and probably get laughed out of the bankers office.
One question I have is would they require malpractice insurance and what would the cost be?
If they are ever able to practice independently, I could see myself networking with several hygienists and running an emergency dental clinic as I enjoy solving patients immediate dental needs and it can be very profitable.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 4/11/15 at 9:51 pm to ElderTiger
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I have had a dentist friend of mine tell me that the opposite is true. The dental hygienists can make a lot of money for a dental office.
Yes, I remember seeing Robin Leach doing a lifestyles of the Rich and Famous doing a story on a OT Baller hygienist from Colorado.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 4/11/15 at 9:59 pm to ruzil
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Will your hyg check for oral cancer and is she trained well enough to know one when she sees it?
Mine does. She does a cancer screening before the cleaning. Cleanes and then the Dentist comes in and checks her work and chit chats. I wouldnt want to go to a place that only cleans teeth, but then again I have good dental ins. They pay for 2 cleanings a yr per person, my premiums are less than the 8 cleanings we use a family yearly.
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