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Relationship between gravity, spacetime, & the time line of the universe

Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Cmlsu5618
Destin, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:20 pm
I'll throw this out there with the assumption of the following theories:

1) Gravity affects spacetime

2) The universe originated from the big bang

So if we accept these notions, isn't it arrogant to say the universe is the 13 billion or so year years old that physicists predict?

Wouldn't there be such a massive influence of gravity that would create unpredictable circumstances and distortions in spacetime that would make it nearly impossible to predict how old our universe truly is?

If we don't even have the mathematical capability to explain what happens at the center of a massive black hole then how can we be so blind to say what happened when gravity had to have been exponentially greater than even the biggest of black holes?

Learn me something OT. Learn me something.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:21 pm to
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Learn me something OT. Learn me something.


Interstellar is a long arse waste of time.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64384 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:21 pm to
Shrooms, Acid, or are you just really stoned right now?
Posted by JTM72
BR, LA.
Member since Mar 2014
1186 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:22 pm to
Someone just got done watching Interstellar.

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Dandy Lion

Beat me to it.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 3:23 pm
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:24 pm to
Get a job





A good one
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86435 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:26 pm to
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Learn me something OT. Learn me something.



Ok. The proper verb to use here would be "teach".
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:26 pm to
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If we don't even have the mathematical capability to explain what happens at the center of a massive black hole


Not yet, it's there though. Just have to figure it out which is possible. Maybe no right now, in the future we may use these to better the world..or destroy it.

What if they really are a gateway to time travel? And in the future, it's used in a form of racism..to travel back and eradicate anyone and everything that doesn't meet a certain standard of "beauty" or acceptance.

And in the end..all that is learned is that you really needed the murderers, rapists, junkies and trash to bring balance..
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18364 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:29 pm to
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Wouldn't there be such a massive influence of gravity that would create unpredictable circumstances and distortions in spacetime that would make it nearly impossible to predict how old our universe truly is?


That is factored in. duh
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6044 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:30 pm to
Watch How the Universe Works on the Science Channel. Should answer your questions. Watch all seasons.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:31 pm to
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Wouldn't there be such a massive influence of gravity that would create unpredictable circumstances and distortions in spacetime that would make it nearly impossible to predict how old our universe truly is?


You don't think they've factored that in? We have some of the greatest minds of all time doing the math here. They've thought of that.

(that doesn't mean they are accurate, but they've certainly thought of it)
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:32 pm to
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And in the end..all that is learned is that you really needed the murderers, rapists, junkies and trash to bring balance..


You can approach, but never reach, perfection. There will always be a pecking order, no matter how small the differences are.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:39 pm to
to appreciate "beauty", you will always need an "ugly".

It's like a battery, positive and negative. You need both to have any production.

Same with being a saints fan, we need Atlanta to remind us how horrible things can be.


The small differences,...given time would become huge.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:40 pm to
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Same with being a saints fan, we need Atlanta to remind us how horrible things can be.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:41 pm to
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to appreciate "beauty", you will always need an "ugly".


Beauty is subjective, just like quality.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:44 pm to
Dude, relax … and reload the bong.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:44 pm to
I agree, but the world we live in is the world we live in.

Kind of like the twilight zone episode "eye of the beholder".
Posted by Cmlsu5618
Destin, FL
Member since Sep 2010
3763 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:07 pm to
Link?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:54 pm to
Global warming is man made by some machine in Alaska.

Where is that female poster that posted this topic a few weeks ago. She can give you insight into your dilemma
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:54 pm to
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So if we accept these notions, isn't it arrogant to say the universe is the 13 billion or so year years old that physicists predict?



Measuring the redshift of stars and looking at the cosmic background radiation?


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Wouldn't there be such a massive influence of gravity that would create unpredictable circumstances and distortions in spacetime that would make it nearly impossible to predict how old our universe truly is?



I believe gravity is the weakest of the four fundamental forces and its the dark energy which is causing the universe to expand and an accelerating rate.



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If we don't even have the mathematical capability to explain what happens at the center of a massive black hole then how can we be so blind to say what happened when gravity had to have been exponentially greater than even the biggest of black holes?



I think its the inflation theory that accounts for that I forget.


I'm no scientist but I love watching BBC Documentaries on physics and shite.



Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:59 pm to
I find physics very interesting. Unfortunately there is, well, was a student in the physics class I am in who asked the teacher if you could completely remove the force of friction with a laser. He has not returned to class after he asked that question.
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