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re: Kiper's new mock draft out today
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:14 pm to Meep
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:14 pm to Meep
Agholar is nothing like Ryan Broyles.
Only thing is common between the 2 is their weight and they are both polished WRs. Agholar is a much better athlete and has very long arms and big hands.
I def see the Reggie Wayne conparison, but he also reminds me of Chad Johnson without the media circus.
Only thing is common between the 2 is their weight and they are both polished WRs. Agholar is a much better athlete and has very long arms and big hands.
I def see the Reggie Wayne conparison, but he also reminds me of Chad Johnson without the media circus.
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 1:19 pm
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:14 pm to Midget Death Squad
quote:One pick later at #14.
where was Shelton listed as taken?
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:16 pm to goatmilker
quote:
Don't get your hopes up as I think Scherff is a lock to be gone before our pick.
I agree but I will continue to hold out hope.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:16 pm to L.A.
There isn't much chatter about him, but I think he would be the smarter choice. NT is critical in a 3-4 setup, and he seems to be the next Casey Hampton. That opens up everything for the rest of the team. If they were to pass him for Gregory, then I believe they have faith in Jenkins. So far I don't
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:21 pm to KG5989
quote:He does not have big hands (smaller than Dorsett who is a much smaller WR).
Only thing is common between the 2 is their weight and they are both polished WRs. Agholar is a much better athlete and has very long arms and big hands.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:30 pm to NOSHAU
his hand size is about average. Some guys are just freaks in comparison to their height. Like Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry
Agholar's hands are bigger than DBG & Jalen Strong, and the same size as Devante Parker, Breshad Perriman, and Kevin White
Agholar's hands are bigger than DBG & Jalen Strong, and the same size as Devante Parker, Breshad Perriman, and Kevin White
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:36 pm to L.A.
I personally think this would be awesome!! Both are great talents!! Agholor is the real deal......
Nelson Agholor
6-0 / 198 lbs. / 4.4~40 / 36" vert.
STRENGTHS: Like former teammates Marqise Lee and Robert Woods, Agholor sports a lean, athletic frame, good lateral agility to elude and sudden acceleration. Shows good quickness and balance as a route-runner and is asked to run a variety of routes in USC's pro-style scheme.
Athletic pass catcher with sharp cuts, before and after the catch, and the body control to make fluid adjustments on the ball. Generally catches the ball cleanly with his hands and secures it quickly.
Runs hard and picks up speed as he goes, showing surprising toughness as a finisher to get every yard he can. Possesses very good vision to set up blocks, as well as the courage and quickness to cut-back against the grain to take advantage of over-pursuing defenders.
WEAKNESSES: Lean framed and thin-muscled, might never be able to comfortably carry 200-pounds. Questionable finishing toughness and looks to avoid contact. Wild routes and needs to stay under control in his movements. Not overly shifty to get himself out of trouble in tight spaces often running into his own blockers. Needs to show better spatial awareness along the sidelines. Questionable ballskills with too many double-catches and focus drops. Tends to misjudge deep balls with waning concentration vertically, also a few botched punt returns on his r?sum?. Not a physical ballcarrier and won?t do much after initial contact.
Nelson Agholor
6-0 / 198 lbs. / 4.4~40 / 36" vert.
STRENGTHS: Like former teammates Marqise Lee and Robert Woods, Agholor sports a lean, athletic frame, good lateral agility to elude and sudden acceleration. Shows good quickness and balance as a route-runner and is asked to run a variety of routes in USC's pro-style scheme.
Athletic pass catcher with sharp cuts, before and after the catch, and the body control to make fluid adjustments on the ball. Generally catches the ball cleanly with his hands and secures it quickly.
Runs hard and picks up speed as he goes, showing surprising toughness as a finisher to get every yard he can. Possesses very good vision to set up blocks, as well as the courage and quickness to cut-back against the grain to take advantage of over-pursuing defenders.
WEAKNESSES: Lean framed and thin-muscled, might never be able to comfortably carry 200-pounds. Questionable finishing toughness and looks to avoid contact. Wild routes and needs to stay under control in his movements. Not overly shifty to get himself out of trouble in tight spaces often running into his own blockers. Needs to show better spatial awareness along the sidelines. Questionable ballskills with too many double-catches and focus drops. Tends to misjudge deep balls with waning concentration vertically, also a few botched punt returns on his r?sum?. Not a physical ballcarrier and won?t do much after initial contact.
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:37 pm to Chad504boy
if Kendricks is there at 31, I'd take him in a heartbeat
Gregory and Kendricks would be legit but I can see us going WR if value is there
Gregory and Kendricks would be legit but I can see us going WR if value is there
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:39 pm to NOSHAU
9.3 inch hands are a nice size, and bigger than Jaelen Strongs hands and his arms are just as long as his as well. And his hands are the same size as Kevin White, Devante Parker, and Perriman. And only 13 WRs at the combine had bigger hands than Agholor. But it's not just how big his hands are, he's got very strong hands and should have put that in my post. Very good at plucking the ball out the air.
He's also a very versatile WR who has experience playing out wide, in the slot, in a bunch, and is a good return guy. Not afraid to go across the middle either.
Hes a legit 1st round WR talent, even in a loaded WR class.
He's also a very versatile WR who has experience playing out wide, in the slot, in a bunch, and is a good return guy. Not afraid to go across the middle either.
Hes a legit 1st round WR talent, even in a loaded WR class.
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:41 pm to L.A.
If the saints are really looking to stay away from guys with character issues then they won't take Gregory. One more failed test and he starts the season on suspension.
It's too much of a risk especially with all the talent available in the first round.
It's too much of a risk especially with all the talent available in the first round.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:46 pm to Dunk47
quote:
One more failed drug test and he starts the season on suspension
No he doesn't.
NFL revised their drug policy recently. You can fail up to 3 tests for marijuana and not miss a game now.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:46 pm to Dunk47
quote:
If the saints are really looking to stay away from guys with character issues then they won't take Gregory. One more failed test and he starts the season on suspension.
It's too much of a risk especially with all the talent available in the first round.
No he doesnt, they changed the rule. He has to test positive 4 times before he misses time.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:47 pm to Meateye
eventually people will figure this new rule out 
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:49 pm to Brageous
1st test - into program, no fine
2nd test - 2 game fine
3rd test - 4 game fine
4th test - 4 game suspension
5th test - 10 game suspension
6th test - 1 year ban
2nd test - 2 game fine
3rd test - 4 game fine
4th test - 4 game suspension
5th test - 10 game suspension
6th test - 1 year ban
Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:28 pm to Meateye
Nelson Agholor's Jr year in the Pac 12
104/1313/12 with 2 punt return TDs
Cook's Jr year in the Pac 12
128/1730/16
Obviously not much defense being played out west, but Agholor's numbers stack up with Cook's. He's flying under the radar and I would rather him than Strong or Dorial
104/1313/12 with 2 punt return TDs
Cook's Jr year in the Pac 12
128/1730/16
Obviously not much defense being played out west, but Agholor's numbers stack up with Cook's. He's flying under the radar and I would rather him than Strong or Dorial
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:04 pm to L.A.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:11 pm to L.A.
quote:
Nelson Agholor
Have we visited with him or anything? I still think we are taking Stephone Anthony, Paul Dawson or Denzel Perryman with our 2nd or 3rd pick.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:25 pm to Meateye
quote:
Nelson Agholor
quote:quote:WEAKNESSES: Lean framed and thin-muscled, might never be able to comfortably carry 200-pounds. Questionable finishing toughness and looks to avoid contact. Wild routes and needs to stay under control in his movements. Not overly shifty to get himself out of trouble in tight spaces often running into his own blockers. Needs to show better spatial awareness along the sidelines. Questionable ballskills with too many double-catches and focus drops. Tends to misjudge deep balls with waning concentration vertically, also a few botched punt returns on his r?sum?. Not a physical ballcarrier and won?t do much after initial contact.
STRENGTHS: Like former teammates Marqise Lee and Robert Woods, Agholor sports a lean, athletic frame, good lateral agility to elude and sudden acceleration. Shows good quickness and balance as a route-runner and is asked to run a variety of routes in USC's pro-style scheme. Athletic pass catcher with sharp cuts, before and after the catch, and the body control to make fluid adjustments on the ball. Generally catches the ball cleanly with his hands and secures it quickly. Runs hard and picks up speed as he goes, showing surprising toughness as a finisher to get every yard he can. Possesses very good vision to set up blocks, as well as the courage and quickness to cut-back against the grain to take advantage of over-pursuing defenders.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:25 pm to KG5989
Agholor seems willing to go over the middle too. Shows some toughness. Didn't know much about him but he seems to be a potentially great WR. Good Lord this class is loaded at WR.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 4:00 pm to King9274
yeah I have noticed that too. quite often players have contradicting analysis in their strength and weakness paragraphs. I start to wonder if they are just throwing shite on a wall, hoping it sticks and calling it brown paint
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