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Spinoff Thread: Help me understand the end of No Country for Old Men (spoilers)

Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:19 am
Posted by Team Vote
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:19 am
I thought it was a very well made movie but even after a few rewatches the ending is a big WTF to me.
Posted by J Murdah
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:38 am to
My assumption was that Chiguru got away with the money, let the wife live and TLJ figured the chase wasnt worth it anymore.
Posted by Team Vote
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:39 am to
If he let her live why did he check his boot soles for blood when he walked out of the house?
Posted by J Murdah
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:42 am to
I didnt catch that part, but that scene could go either way. If she didnt want to play his game would he have just killed her, then again why was he waiting in the house to begin with?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:44 am to
It's one of my favorite movies. That said, I didn't like the ending. Not that the ending was bad in any way, just that it seemed like the film was just cut during the story. This has very little to no effect on my enjoyment of the movie.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:55 am to
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I didnt catch that part, but that scene could go either way.
no. he killed her.

Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:02 pm to
All the senseless killing made Sheriff Ed Tom realize he was living in no country for old men.
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:23 pm to
It was all a dream, I used to read word up magazine
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:39 pm to
1. The Mexicans killed Llewellyn and got the cash
2. Chigurh killed Llewellyn's wife and gets away after the wreck
3. With Llewellyn dead Sheriff Bell's interest/jurisdiction is gone so he goes back home
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:41 pm to
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I didnt catch that part, but that scene could go either way. If she didnt want to play his game would he have just killed her, then again why was he waiting in the house to begin with?



Chigurh told Llewellyn that if he came and gave him the money then he would just kill him, but if he didn't he'd kill Llewellyn and then go kill his wife.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:51 pm to
A lot of violence and loss of life, centered around a ridiculous and unrealistic murder weapon and a B horror movie level bad guy/monster, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Posted by Person of interest
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:47 pm to
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A lot of violence and loss of life, centered around a ridiculous and unrealistic murder weapon and a B horror movie level bad guy/monster, full of sound and fury


No Country reminds me a lot of Blood Simple, they have a lot of the same feel. The B movie or 70's type story I believe was intentional.

I like both movies.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 4:15 pm to
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let the wife live
Na. She dead as everyone said.

Checked his boots. Pretty clear on that.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 4:37 pm to
Chigurh retrieved the money from the motel duct (and, in the book, returned it to his employer).

Chigurh killed Carla Jean. In the book, she guessed wrong on the coin toss.

If I remember the book right, Chigurh was in the adjacent room when Ed Tom Bell returned to the motel. He was not behind the door.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 4:44 pm to
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I thought it was a very well made movie but even after a few rewatches the ending is a big WTF to me.


It's one of the most cataclysmic reveals in movie history when Llewelyn is casually presented as dead in passing in the motel parking lot. You find out that the travails of one little man don't mean squat and that everything is irrelevant. You also find out that TLJ is the actual subject of the movie. The movie ends with his speech in which it seems as if he realizes it has ALWAYS been NCFOM...i.e. evil was, is and always will be.
Posted by REG861
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 4:53 pm to
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You find out that the travails of one little man don't mean squat and that everything is irrelevant.


This.

Question about the car accident in which Anton gets badly hurt. Chigurh always presented himself as some otherworldly spirit, something not quite human, like the hand of fate. In an unconventional/psychopathic way, he had an enormous ego and viewed himself as greater than other men.

On that basis, I always interpreted the car accident to basically reaffirm what you said as it applies to Chigurgh. For all his seeming invincibility and superhuman nature, he too is mortal and vulnerable to being snuffed out in a second by some freak accident. For all his blustering, Chigurh too is ultimately insignificant. Am I wrong in interpreting this?

This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Team Vote
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 5:13 pm to
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For all his blustering, Chigurh too is ultimately insignificant. Am I wrong in interpreting this?


That's exactly how I took it. After killing Carla Jean and having come across as some unstoppable force of fate, it almost ends for him in one moment.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 5:48 pm to
It's the sheriff saying he is outmatched, that he is old and everything has passed him up. Hence the title.

Anton kills Carla Jean

The crash symbolized that no one is invincible and everything can change in a split second
Posted by Thurber
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 6:19 pm to
Carla Jean is dead
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 6:36 pm to
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It's the sheriff saying he is outmatched, that he is old and everything has passed him up. Hence the title.


It's not the first time he has quit though. See the WWII back story in the book (it really needed to be in the movie). He thought he had changed and become a better man but he realizes he hasn't actually changed at all.

Another part was that he saw himself as a failure as sheriff. From the book after he decided to quit:

"Loretta did say one thing. She said somethin to the effect that it wasnt my fault and I said it was. And I had thought about that too. I told her that if you got a bad enough dog in your yard people will stay out of it. And they didnt."

He realized he wasn't a bad enough dog to deal with the likes of Chigurh.

But probably the most relevant passage from the book is from the very beginnning:

“Somewhere out there is a true and living prophet of destruction and I dont want to confront him. I know he's real. I have seen his work. I walked in front of those eyes once. I wont do it again. I wont push my chips forward and stand up and go out to meet him. It aint just bein older. I wish that it was. I cant say that it's even what you are willin to do. Because I always knew that you had to be willin to die to even do this job. That was always true. Not to sound glorious about it or nothin but you do. If you aint they'll know it. They'll see it in a heartbeat. I think it is more like what you are willin to become. And I think a man would have to put his soul at hazard. And I wont do that.”
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