re: Going from Zelda TP to Wind Waker?

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Looking at Wind Waker, the graphics look horrible compared to TP

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To each their own I guess, but I don't know how you can say this.

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Also, the graphics are timeless

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Best way to describe it.

By not going for realism to begin with, they don't have to worry about the graphics becoming outdated.

I guess I'm the only one that prefers the former to the latter. But I'm not a hard core gamer. I play maybe once a week at most. So I'm not as keen to the nuances of what makes a game so great, graphically speaking.

The only definition of "timeless" I would accept is the idea that the graphics don't look as dated as quickly.

It ages better

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So it's the worst Zelda game of all time to you?

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I said on console. Yes, I prefer;

1. Ocarina of Time
2. Link to the Past
3. Majora's Mask
4. Twilght Princess
5. Zelda
6. Zelda II
7. Wind Waker

I have not played Skyward sword or Four swords. So maybe those rank lower for me.

I am old enough to have played all of those when they first came out so nostalgia does play into some of it for me.

The sailing mechanic of WindWaker just never will sit well with me, I hate it. I have played through it on gamecube and Wii U.

Also want to point out, that out of all of the non NES titles, it has the lowest user score on metacritic. So it is not some crazy idea.

Why does everyone keep bringing up the story? I love Zelda games but the story is not even close to a strong suit on any of them.

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I love Zelda games but the story is not even close to a strong suit on any of them.

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I would never claim the stories are Game of Thrones-level drama, but some of them have a nice, simple, fairy tale charm to them that has been very effective at times. WW's story might be the best at that in the series.

I agree with the notion that it was surely easier for them to update the grahics for "HD"

But not that it ages better. I still feel like TP looks much better than the HD update to WW. I will feel that way no matter how many years pass.

Opinions are opinions, I suppose.

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I think there's a reason WW is the only Zelda game Nintendo has remade with updated graphics on a home console

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But I'm talking about right now. I'm not talking 10 years down the road. I'm accustomed to TP's graphics which I think are much better than WW. 10 years from now, I may thing TP is junk and WW holds up. But not right now.

And I've never played on an HD TV so there's also that aspect.

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Why does everyone keep bringing up the story? I love Zelda games but the story is not even close to a strong suit on any of them.

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The general familiarity, but always with unique twists, is, again, part of the charm of Zelda games. Is the story some complex beast of political and social commentary wrapped in intrigue, surprise and terror? Probably not.

But Zelda games, through the filter of near mythic structure, take the same general idea, paste it onto a new world with different flourishes. It's kind of a brilliant part of the whole thing. It's essentially a repeating tale, that is always told differently.

If you can't see the beauty in the simplicity of that effect, you're missing out on how enthralling LotZ canon games can really be. Every single time I play a LotZ game, I'm pulled back to my first experience in 1987 playing LotZ without fail, so it's this weird mish-mash of nostalgia and real time experience. It's a completely new, yet familiar experience.


As an aside, In games, and in film and tv, people are so focused on "overblownl stories," that they miss out on the simple exercise of experiencing feeling in narrative. They need surprises, shocks, wide ranging emotions and implications. They almost need too much to really know what they are experiencing. LotZ, in gaming, has always been a call back to simple mythic narrative and that's awesome.