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Stanford student with 2 major discoveries: gas & battery related

Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:11 pm
Video showing Ming Gong going over a new aluminium-ion battery

In the video Gong shows his new Aluminium and Graphite Battery.
1. It can get a full charge in 1 minute.
2. It has no battery life decay from inactivity, (even thousands of cycles.)
- You could charge the battery, put it in a box, get it out 2 years later and it would still have a full charge.
3. Because there is no decay when it's not being used, the battery lasts longer than lithium batteries.
4. The battery is flexible and could work in objects, screens you would want to be able to bend.
5. If Gong's battery is punctured it is not a fire hazard (think of military application.)
6. The materials to make the battery cost a fraction of what it costs to produce a lithium battery.

Ming Gong discovers way to split H2O into H and O

This makes hydrogen fuel cells viable and filling your vehicle with water a very real possibility
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In 2015, American consumers will finally be able to purchase fuel cell cars from Toyota and other manufacturers. Although touted as zero-emissions vehicles, most of the cars will run on hydrogen made from natural gas, a fossil fuel that contributes to global warming.

Now scientists at Stanford University have developed a low-cost, emissions-free device that uses an ordinary AAA battery to produce hydrogen by water electrolysis. The battery sends an electric current through two electrodes that split liquid water into hydrogen and oxygen gas. Unlike other water splitters that use precious-metal catalysts, the electrodes in the Stanford device are made of inexpensive and abundant nickel and iron.

"Using nickel and iron, which are cheap materials, we were able to make the electrocatalysts active enough to split water at room temperature with a single 1.5-volt battery," said Hongjie Dai, a professor of chemistry at Stanford. "This is the first time anyone has used non-precious metal catalysts to split water at a voltage that low. It's quite remarkable, because normally you need expensive metals, like platinum or iridium, to achieve that voltage."

In addition to producing hydrogen, the novel water splitter could be used to make chlorine gas and sodium hydroxide, an important industrial chemical, according to Dai. He and his colleagues describe the new device in a study published in the Aug. 22 issue of the journal Nature Communications.

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The discovery was made by Stanford graduate student Ming Gong, co-lead author of the study. "Ming discovered a nickel-metal/nickel-oxide structure that turns out to be more active than pure nickel metal or pure nickel oxide alone," Dai said. "This novel structure favors hydrogen electrocatalysis, but we still don't fully understand the science behind it."

The nickel/nickel-oxide catalyst significantly lowers the voltage required to split water, which could eventually save hydrogen producers billions of dollars in electricity costs, according to Gong. His next goal is to improve the durability of the device.

"The electrodes are fairly stable, but they do slowly decay over time," he said. "The current device would probably run for days, but weeks or months would be preferable. That goal is achievable based on my most recent results"

The researchers also plan to develop a water splitter than runs on electricity produced by solar energy.

"Hydrogen is an ideal fuel for powering vehicles, buildings and storing renewable energy on the grid," said Dai. "We're very glad that we were able to make a catalyst that's very active and low cost. This shows that through nanoscale engineering of materials we can really make a difference in how we make fuels and consume energy."
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:13 pm to
He'll be "missing" in a month.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:14 pm to
Saw this yesterday and was surprised nobody put it here.

I'm skeptical because every single time we hear about amazing advances in battery tech, nothing happens.

Also checked the date about 14 times to make sure it wasn't April 1st.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:18 pm to
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filling your vehicle with water a very real possibility


Do water fueled cars really scale with our current resource usage? We're already headed towards water wars. I guess on the plus side this would give incentive to discover cheaper desalinization processes and lower sea level, combating global climate change in 2 ways.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:37 pm to
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4. The battery is flexible and could work in objects, screens you would want to be able to bend.



Shame this wasn't released with the iPhone 6+. Here's for hoping for the 6+s
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:41 pm to
Don't you mean the Samsung edge?
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:46 pm to
But, what about the poor oil rig workers!
Posted by seawolf06
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:56 pm to
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we still don't fully understand the science behind it


It's a hoax.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:08 pm to
$5 dollars says no energy company or government invests in this just like all other breakthroughs.


Would reduce profits and lobbying. Yay!!


Collusion is strong in this industry.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 10:10 pm
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 7:39 am to
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Ming Gong discovers way to split H2O into H and O


We've had that technology for decades... electrolytic oxygen generators. It's how submarines make oxygen.

quote:

a low-cost, emissions-free device that uses an ordinary AAA battery to produce hydrogen by water electrolysis.


That's the difference. If I remember correctly the Treadwell EOG uses 50vDC.
Posted by Phat Phil
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 7:57 am to
can someone discover an easy scientific method to lose fat and build muscle? it takes old school displine and persistance to lose even little bit of weight. it's year 2015 and losing fat is as difficult as it was 5000 years ago.
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:32 am to
Reading threads like this makes me feel like I might literally be borderline retarded if I ever got evaluated.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:07 am to
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:26 am to
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We've had that technology for decades... electrolytic oxygen generators. It's how submarines make oxygen.

i was thinking the exact same thing.... it would be really cool, however, to fill up your car with water, have it run on the hydrogen, and emit oxygen.... doubt it ever happens in my lifetime, but amazing nonetheless....
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:18 pm to
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In addition to producing hydrogen, the novel water splitter could be used to make chlorine gas and sodium hydroxide, an important industrial chemical,


Being that HCl and NaOH are by-products in a lot of chemical processes, I don't think it will be used for that. We purchase those two at less than 1 cent per kilo.

I find it hard to believe that no company has ever tried electrolysis with nickel or iron electrodes. This may work in a lab setting, but we will see how it performs in the real world.

I hope everything is like he says. I'm very interested in the battery though.
Posted by BoostAddict
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:36 pm to
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a fossil fuel that contributes to global warming.


gotdammit.
Posted by TK421
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:09 pm to
I'm highly skeptical. If for no other reason, he is getting the credit here rather than his graduate adviser. Big breakthroughs don't work like that.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:48 pm to
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doubt it ever happens in my lifetime


Like one poster said above, this student will be mysteriously missing soon enough.

But really, big oil lobbyists will keep this stifled for a very long time. Because, you know, pressurized hydrogen fuel in a moving vehicle driven by a newly licensed teenager. Then throw the word "terrorism" into the mix.



This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Scruffy
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 7:11 pm to
Amazing discoveries, but I am not a fan of a system that uses water as a fuel.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 7:14 pm to
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but I am not a fan of a system that uses water as a fuel.

Why you say this
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