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Rotoworld Saints Mock/Draft Preview
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:21 am
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:21 am
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Round 1 (13): EDGE Bud Dupree, Kentucky - Upgrading the disruption in the front seven is a necessity. Dupree is a unique evaluation. He was not allowed to focus on one area of his game, either pass rushing or playing off the ball, and instead produced average play at both. Dupree is so explosive and will need to learn how to win by converting speed to power because he is not a bender who turns the corner. I think the Saints are a darkhorse for Marcus Mariota with how many picks they have in the first three rounds.
Round 1 (31): G A.J. Cann, South Carolina - A true interior OL will likely make his way into the end of round one. It seems most project Cann to be the first one off the board. I question the frequency in how often Cann drops his head and overextends, but he has an athletic base and strong hands to control.
Round 2 (44): WR Jaelen Strong, Arizona State - I do not rank Strong as highly as others, but this would be a great fit since Brees could put the ball in Strong’s catch radius. In other offenses Strong could have a difficult time separating in man coverage. In this offense, he won’t have to separate to be targeted.
Round 3 (75): LB Paul Dawson, TCU - I know I inflated Dawson’s projection. I could absolutely see him staying on the board later than round three. Dawson is still aggressive and will make plays at the line of scrimmage. The athletic testing mixed with the admitted focus issues could absolutely lengthen the wait Dawson makes on draft weekend.
Round 3 (78): TE Clive Walford, Miami - The Saints keep hyping up Josh Hill, but Walford would be an interesting addition. There are occasional hands issues, but Walford can be a target at multiple levels and has some movement skills. He can be flexed in the slot or be used inline.
Round 5 (148): CB Quandre Diggs, Texas - Teams likely view Diggs in the slot. He looks comfortable working through trash, which is a difficult skill to master. Kenny Vaccaro also has experience at this spot.
Round 5 (154): DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Southern Miss - A personal favorite. RNR is an outstanding natural athlete and makes a ton of plays coupling it with a good motor. He loses backfield vision and lacks refined technique. Still, he offers depth in a sub package role.
Round 6 (189): WR Devante Davis, UNLV - Davis shines on contested catches and 50/50 situations. Continue adding pieces to the passing game.
Round 6 (202): OL Andrew Donnal, Iowa - A favorite of OL czar Lance Zierlein. Much of the focus is on Brandon Scherff, but Donnal has talent to be a utility lineman in the NFL.
Round 7 (230): EDGE Max Valles, Virginia - Eli Harold’s running mate. When focusing on Harold, Valles caught my eye with flash plays. But once focusing on Valles, I don’t think there is much there to work with. Some teams might see “upside.”
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 8:23 am
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:40 am to LosLobos111
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In other offenses Strong could have a difficult time separating in man coverage. In this offense, he won’t have to separate to be targeted.
Hate that. Here we are lobbying for a WR who can create separation on his own to go along with Brees' ball placement, but Rotoworld feels like we don't need that.
We want a WR who can physically battle defenders and break off of coverage on his own without having the QB throw him the perfect pass.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:41 am to LosLobos111
I'd be pretty satisfied with that draft.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:09 am to LosLobos111
That's not a bad draft projection, but I don't think it will be close to the end result.
The writer did hit on most of the areas of need.
The writer did hit on most of the areas of need.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:12 am to LosLobos111
Meh
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:20 am to LosLobos111
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I think the Saints are a darkhorse for Marcus Mariota
and he lost me there
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:22 am to SaintLSUnAtl
The whole article has a good write up of the saints needs and other things.
That's just the mock
That's just the mock
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:22 am to LosLobos111
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No. 1 Team Need: Offensive line
Silva's Analysis
The Saints' trade of Ben Grubbs to Kansas City created a concerning hole at left guard. LT Terron Armstead, C Max Unger, RG Jahri Evans (long term is in question) and RT Zach Strief are all entrenched as starters. Coach Sean Payton's track record is decidedly aggressive in the passing game, but the Saints' roster took on more of a ball-control look this offseason. They invested sizable contracts in both Mark Ingram and C.J. Spiller, and now need interior linemen to clear running lanes for them.
No. 2 Team Need: Wide receiver
Silva's Analysis
New Orleans' more-balanced offensive approach may serve to minimize the team's wideout need, but an argument could have been made for receiver as a weakness even before the trades of Jimmy Graham and Kenny Stills. Marques Colston is on his last legs approaching age 32. Even if Brandin Cooks is ready to break out, Nos. 3-5 options Nick Toon, Seantavius Jones and Brandon Coleman are intriguing if unproven. The Saints could use a big perimeter target to help mitigate the loss of Graham in the red zone and open up the underneath sections for Cooks.
No. 3 Team Need: Linebacker
Silva's Analysis
Tight end, defensive end and quarterback also register as potential need areas. Linebacker stands out most prominently after New Orleans' defense was gashed by the run throughout 2014. MLB David Hawthorne is just above replacement level and struggles mightily on passing downs, while trade acquisition WLB Dannell Ellerbe is a below-average starter. SLB Parys Haralson is a limited-snap role player on the wrong side of 30. And the Saints have very little in the way of depth behind those three.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:52 am to LosLobos111
I don't like it. I don't like taking Cann in the first round. I believe we do need a guard, but we have success with later round picks at that spot. We need an ILB pretty early on. I don't mind bud Dupree but I'd prefer anthony at 44 or Mckinney at 31. Guard or wr in the second wr or cb in the third a safety and 5 tech in the 5th and so on
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:43 am to SnoopALoop
We want a WR who can physically battle defenders and break off of coverage on his own without having the QB throw him the perfect pass.
Honestly when's the last time we had a guy who could consistently do that?
Honestly when's the last time we had a guy who could consistently do that?
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:44 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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quote: I think the Saints are a darkhorse for Marcus Mariota
If he's there at 13, which would blow my mind, we'd take a hard look. If anything for major trade bait
Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:41 pm to LosLobos111
Bud Dupree, Paul Dawson, Jalen Strong, and Clive Walford?
Yes please.
Yes please.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:51 pm to LosLobos111
Gyno posted this in the stickied Mock thread, and I'll echo what i said then.
While I would love that draft, Strong and Dawson aren't falling that far.
While I would love that draft, Strong and Dawson aren't falling that far.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:06 pm to PurpleDrank18
You never really know. Every year there are guys that don't go as high as they were projected. People put way too much stock in these draft boards and don't really have any idea how coaches and front office people really value these players.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:08 pm to Northshore Saint
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People put way too much stock in these draft boards and don't really have any idea how coaches and front office people really value these players.
I agree. As fans, we only get to see how the "media scouts" rank the players, not the actual teams. That being said, I still don't think Dawson lasts until the 3rd. Strong on the other hand, I've watch a few of his games and I wasn't overly impressed. There also seems to be a few WRs rising that could easily push Strong to 44.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:12 pm to Northshore Saint
I know, but these are drastic drops IMO. Strong should probably go anywhere from 16-31. And Dawson is a late-first - mid-second round player. Again, this is all JMO. but these projections just seems a little too far off. I could understand Strong at 35-ish or something and Dawson in the high-50s as them "falling".
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:13 pm to PurpleDrank18
I think Dawson's numbers are going to end up hurting him. While he improved at his pro day, it's still nothing mind blowing, especially at 5'11" 230. Im not sure if he will fall that far to us, but he will be a good value for someone.
And I think Jaelen Strong can be the Donte Moncrief of this class. Fringe 1st RD guy who may drop into the 2nd RD due to the deep pool of WRs.
Perriman's emergence, and when a team decides to gamble on DGB, Dorsett, or even say Devin Smith or someone like that could mean Strong drops.
Both are a long shot to fall but I could see it happening.
And I think Jaelen Strong can be the Donte Moncrief of this class. Fringe 1st RD guy who may drop into the 2nd RD due to the deep pool of WRs.
Perriman's emergence, and when a team decides to gamble on DGB, Dorsett, or even say Devin Smith or someone like that could mean Strong drops.
Both are a long shot to fall but I could see it happening.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:16 pm to GynoSandberg
Sure, Dawson's numbers weren't great. (Even tho his 3-cone time was elite for the position). His tape speaks for itself and i truly believe teams (at least one) will take that over his numbers. I just think Strong has everything you're looking for. I personally have him ranked as my #4 WR behind the top tier.
Again, all this is JMO, and I understand players drop and fall all the time, I just think HOW FAR he had them dropping is a tad overestimated.
Again, all this is JMO, and I understand players drop and fall all the time, I just think HOW FAR he had them dropping is a tad overestimated.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:17 pm to GynoSandberg
Bud Dupree seems to be getting a lot of buzz as a top 10 pick recently, wonder where he ends up.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:25 pm to mm2316
I could see the Falcons grabbing him if they feel Gregory isn't their man, character-wise.
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