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Winston and Mariota will likely both go in top 5 picks of the draft with
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:39 am
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:39 am
Mariota most likely to fall like Rodgers did.
Winston projection as #1 pick -
A. Do you think he flames out like JaMarcus Russell?
B. Do you think he's the next Luck/Manning?
C. Somewhere in between
Mariota projection as top 5 pick -
A. Do you think he slides and has similar Aaron Rodgers mobility and passing development and similar career arc?
B. Do you think he gets into a system that does not match his strengths and struggles?
C. Do you think he becomes great mobile QB in league?
D. Do you think he becomes a first round bust?
Winston projection as #1 pick -
A. Do you think he flames out like JaMarcus Russell?
B. Do you think he's the next Luck/Manning?
C. Somewhere in between
Mariota projection as top 5 pick -
A. Do you think he slides and has similar Aaron Rodgers mobility and passing development and similar career arc?
B. Do you think he gets into a system that does not match his strengths and struggles?
C. Do you think he becomes great mobile QB in league?
D. Do you think he becomes a first round bust?
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Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:42 am to nicholastiger
i hope they go 1-2.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:44 am to nicholastiger
quote:Mariota will be top 5 AND fall like Rodgers did?
Winston and Mariota will likely both go in top 5 picks of the draft with Mariota most likely to fall like Rodgers did.
Winston - somewhere in between
Mariota - Somewhere between a bust and just an ok QB
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 8:45 am
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:49 am to Tiger Ryno
as long as #2 is a trade or somehow the Bucs take Mariota, then yes.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:52 am to nicholastiger
Winston is C, somewhere in between.
I still don't know why Russell is the first QB people pick to compare him to. They're nothing alike, at all.
Game reminds me of Roethlisberger or Leftwich more than anyone else. If he can keep his head on straight he'll end up somewhere in between what those guys did.
Mariota has no business going in the first round. People want him to be great because he's a humble guy more than anything else. Career backup is his ceiling IMO. He has outstanding mobility but doesn't throw well enough to use it at the NFL level.
Teams will take his mobility away and make him beat them from the pocket. I think the odds are stacked against you when you haven't taken a snap from under center until this year.
I still don't know why Russell is the first QB people pick to compare him to. They're nothing alike, at all.
Game reminds me of Roethlisberger or Leftwich more than anyone else. If he can keep his head on straight he'll end up somewhere in between what those guys did.
Mariota has no business going in the first round. People want him to be great because he's a humble guy more than anything else. Career backup is his ceiling IMO. He has outstanding mobility but doesn't throw well enough to use it at the NFL level.
Teams will take his mobility away and make him beat them from the pocket. I think the odds are stacked against you when you haven't taken a snap from under center until this year.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:57 am to Goldrush25
Yea Winston is nothing like Russell. The only thing I'm worried about is his accuracy. Top end he is Ben Rothlisberger.
I see Marcus as a Sam Bradford but hopefully he can stay healthier because he is a little bigger.
I see Marcus as a Sam Bradford but hopefully he can stay healthier because he is a little bigger.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:05 am to nicholastiger
quote:if he gets in shape he won't. Has to be willing to put in the time like Manning/Brees
Do you think he flames out like JaMarcus Russell?
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:07 am to nicholastiger
My guess right now:
Winston--poor man's Big Ben/slightly less of a player. Hell, if all goes right, he could be as good as him.
Mariota--slightly better than Colin Kaepernick
Winston--poor man's Big Ben/slightly less of a player. Hell, if all goes right, he could be as good as him.
Mariota--slightly better than Colin Kaepernick
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:10 am to Goldrush25
quote:
still don't know why Russell is the first QB people pick to compare him to. They're nothing alike, at all.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:12 am to Goldrush25
I can't link the stat but I remember seeing that Joe Flaccid took the most snaps under center and 36 percent in gun. Rivers was at 94 percent under gun.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:15 am to nicholastiger
Not that college stats is everything, but 25td/18int with FSU's talent in the ACC is pretty weak.
Mostly was his WR's and RB's making big plays.
His baseball form delivery is a a big red flag too.
Mostly was his WR's and RB's making big plays.
His baseball form delivery is a a big red flag too.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:19 am to Goldrush25
Really?
You say you don't understand why people compare him to Russel then say he is more like Roethlisberger?
Jamarcus Russell was constantly compared to Roethlisberger when he was drafted.
Jamarcus Russell = similar to Big Ben
Winston = similar to Big Ben
Russell = similar to Winston
Duh
You say you don't understand why people compare him to Russel then say he is more like Roethlisberger?
Jamarcus Russell was constantly compared to Roethlisberger when he was drafted.
Jamarcus Russell = similar to Big Ben
Winston = similar to Big Ben
Russell = similar to Winston
Duh
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:20 am to nicholastiger
quote:
Mariota most likely to fall
quote:
top 5 pick
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:22 am to nicholastiger
Winston will be great.
Is it really a "slide" for Mariota? ESPN pimped him at #1 for months. But he's not THAT good and shouldn't be drafted that high. I think he's a career backup.
Is it really a "slide" for Mariota? ESPN pimped him at #1 for months. But he's not THAT good and shouldn't be drafted that high. I think he's a career backup.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:23 am to Dr. Shultz
What do Russell and Winston have in common other than being big and a bit flabby?
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:39 am to nicholastiger
quote:
A. Do you think he flames out like JaMarcus Russell?
B. Do you think he's the next Luck/Manning?
C. Somewhere in between
I think he'll have a Cam Newton/Jay Cutler type of career. Not elite. At time he will look very good. At times, he'll be considered a failure. But he has enough talent to always be a starter in league.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:45 am to boom roasted
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What do Russell and Winston have in common other than being big and a bit flabby?
They are both black Bama boys that will be #1 picks in the NFL and play the same position
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:46 am to lsu480
Which has nothing to do with comparing them as players.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:55 am to jeff5891
I think if we took pics of all NFL QBs we'd see a decent bit of flab amongst the numbers. It's a weak correlation at best.
In Winston I see a hard working, two sport athlete that's respected his craft for years. In Russell I see a physically gifted slug that never loved football and only played because he was good at it.
In Winston I see a hard working, two sport athlete that's respected his craft for years. In Russell I see a physically gifted slug that never loved football and only played because he was good at it.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 9:56 am
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:57 am to boom roasted
I didn't say they play the same way. He asked what they had in common.
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